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josekym said:
Hello ZL users, I would just like to ask if there is official/non-official documentation on the ZL 19Hz strobe mode (for later models)? Is H1 the default level for it?

I observe that on my recent SC600w MK4 Plus and SC64w HI, the default strobe level is not H1. If you cycle from L1-H1, turn it off, then triple-click to strobe, you get the H1-level strobe output. However, when you remove the battery, the level resets to whatever default setting it is (but it is not H1 as far as I can tell, since it is dimmer). Happens on G5, G6, G7 as well.

This issue does not happen to my older MK3 HI and SC5w II. Both appear to me as using H1-level for 19Hz strobe.
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Just to add to this, I found that the 19Hz strobe always gets reset to lower mode even just by changing mode groups on the newer lights. My older lights do not have this "issue".
 
Not sure when it happened, but ZL has a newer version of their website. Looks good! Same info as before, just a different package.

Noticed they no longer have the most recent light I had purchased, H600d IV. Sooo glad I splurged and got that when I did. It goes on my helmet for mtn biking, along with a pair of H600Fd IV on the handlebars, and joins the other 22 zebras.
 
neutralwhite said:
I hear a lot about Andruil is better than the ZL UI
do you agree ?.
is the ZL UI outdated ?
still love for it ?
thanks !
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You almost can't compare the two UIs.
ZL's is a simple straight-forward UI usable by about anyone but has everything you really need in an EDC flashlight.
Anduril2 is quite the opposite, it has "everything" and is way more complex and targets enthusiast users.
See http://toykeeper.net/torches/fsm/anduril2/anduril-manual.txt for the manual.
 
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Owning my ZL, I see no reason to even consider a new or different UI. The ZL UI has everything that I'd want.

The fact that I've instant access to 3 different, user configurable, levels from off is just about all I need. Then, once on, I have simple access to even more levels of brightness.

Anything more than Thai would just be overkill for me and more opportunities to mess it up.
 
I've written about this before, but I'll reiterate...

The only real gripe I have with the ZL UI is the fact that it remembers sub-modes. It's great that I can shortcut to say, High mode, but will I get H1 or H2? I won't know until I turn the light on and do a double click.

On paper, the ZL UI is fairly simple and Anduril is ultra-complicated, but in actual use I find the opposite. The basic operation of Anduril is simple and elegant while ZL has me doing a lot of double clicks and mode checking that shouldn't be necessary.
 
I got mine to come on at a nice medium EDC level with single click from off. Double click from off for hi. Long press for low. It just works for me. As much as I try, I just dont love Anduril. I can tolerate it, just like the ZL better.
 
this_is_nascar said:
Owning my ZL, I see no reason to even consider a new or different UI. The ZL UI has everything that I'd want.

The fact that I've instant access to 3 different, user configurable, levels from off is just about all I need. Then, once on, I have simple access to even more levels of brightness.

Anything more than Thai would just be overkill for me and more opportunities to mess it up.
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I have 26 Zebralights and about 10 Anduril lights. I would love Anduril in at least some of my Zebralights. You have the same instant access to three light settings, plus instant ramp up/down.

Hold Briefly = Firefly mode (if set low in your ceiling setting)
Click = Memory
Click Twice = full bright (whatever your high ceiling level is)
Click Twice again = Turbo!

The only one you can't chose is single click level. Wait, yes you can since the update a few years ago. You can now choose between manual memory and auto memory.
 
Good posts about Anduril flashlights in this Zebralight thread!
Respect for PoliceScannerMan for his preference.

It stands however that things can go kersplat quite quick with Anduril when button-clicking-mistakes happen. A user guide is needed for most of us to get back on track. Earlier production Anduril torches also did not always function as requested for me.

One could say that switches on the 4 or so Anduril flashlights that I've possessed were not in the same league as a high quality Zebralight switch. The ZL anodizing is really good and the lenses are said to be tough. Compactness won me over to ZL in 2013, but that whole double clicking thing to see if I was in L1, L2, M1, M2, H1 or H2 got old after the smooth ramping of Anduril made its debut. My wife still uses a ZL LE in rotation with an Anduril for our nightly dog walks.
 
A ramping UI would be nice on a ZL. They already have room for 3 sets of UIs that can be customized, why not make ramping one of them? Unfortunately, Anduril generally runs on lights with PWM and linear/mosfet drivers which are antithetical to ZL's design philosophy of high efficiency.
 
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It is true that Anduril can get all kinds of borked with the wrong series of clicks, which just doesn't happen with Zebralights. Though in most cases it's as simple as loosening and re-tightening the battery cap to get back to baseline.

With Zebralight and Anduril both, any sort of programming demands that the manual is in front of me. I just don't have the space in my brain for that stuff. It is a little irritating that I now need to figure out which Anduril manual I need for whatever light I'm trying to program, because 1 and 2 program very differently.

amanichen - I don't think there's any technical reason Anduril needs to run on lights with PWM and FET drivers. That's just the market space where it was popularized.
 
Duster1671 said:
amanichen - I don't think there's any technical reason Anduril needs to run on lights with PWM and FET drivers. That's just the market space where it was popularized.
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Yeah, someone on another forum developed a boost driver, and a buck-boost running Anduril (#1 or #2?) but neither are yet on any production lights that I'm aware of.
 
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Duster1671 said:
I don't think there's any technical reason Anduril needs to run on lights with PWM and FET drivers. That's just the market space where it was popularized.
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There isn't. My recent "custom" Emisar D4V2.5 has the 9A+FET linear driver which is fully regulated/PWM-free up to 9 amps (basically any level but turbo) and has comparable runtimes at low to medium levels to what ZL's drivers are offering.
 
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neutralwhite said:
Ticket status: New

Department: Customer Service

Subject: ZebraLight, Inc.: Update Tracking #52996

We have no plans to close down in the forseeable future.

Sincerely,

ZebraLight, Inc.
PO BOX 92307
Southlake, TX 76092
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Thanks, but this won't matter. By the end of the month, someone will be out here speculating the ZL must be closing the doors, since nothing new has been released or announced.
 
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