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Zebralight SC52w Review


When the SC52 came out and its specs were released, there was a peal of cathedral bells. That was the death knell of the CR123a EDC light. There is no real reason to opt for the more expensive CR123a cells anymore, this from an avowed CR123a-only guy, less than two years ago. The performance gap was closing then and now it is almost gone. Sure the S10 Baton from Olight and the F1 from LED Lenser still hit higher highs than the SC52w, but the reality is the difference between them in terms of real world performance is almost meaningless and certainly not enough to justify the increased expense.

Part of this has to do with how the eye perceives increases in lumens. Here is a very useful chart on perceived brightness. Running a NiHM rechargeable, the SC52W pumps out 280 ANSI lumens, while the S10 hits 320. There is very little perceptible difference between the two. Similarly, the 280 lumens compared to the F1's 400 lumens is also almost imperceptible. To get a real bump at this lumens count you need to jump into the 600s. But this is not the end of the story. In my daily life, I have found that I rarely need more than 200 lumens for a task. Punched up the end of my driveway at night to figure out what that bump was needs around 100-150 lumens, 200 on a stormy day. Before the SC52 that level of performance on a single AA cell light was unheard of absent a rechargeable cell. Now, on a primary AA, you can get around 280 lumens. That's plenty and now competitive with most CR123a lights. Eye physiology, brain processing, and practical use means that you probably won't need something more than what the SC52 puts out and that means, in turn, that you can go back to buying regular batteries (though I find it helpful to have many different format lights in an emergency).


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I just received mine today. I'm highly impressed with this light. UI is not as confusing as it seems on paper. Great light for any amount of money let alone how inexpensive it is.
 
Zebralight SC52w Review


When the SC52 came out and its specs were released, there was a peal of cathedral bells. That was the death knell of the CR123a EDC light. There is no real reason to opt for the more expensive CR123a cells anymore...

Sounds like you really bought into ZLs marketing hype/exaggerations. ZL likes to pitch its 1xNiMh specs squarely in the 3v class (1xCRAA, 2xAA). All you need to do is overlay Selfbuilt's SC52 output/runtime graphs against his 3v class lights and you'll see it's not really competitive - you can even use the L91 lithium primary graph which has about the same energy as 1xCR123 or 2xEneloop.

Not to take anything away from the SC52, on average, it's performs a little better than most 1xAAs, but IMHO, if you think the gap to CR123 lights is immaterial, then certain so is it's gap from other 1xAAs.

Anyways, there's a new kid on the block that blows away the SC52 on an Eneloop - such is progress ;).
 
My SC52W L2 have like 1 sec delay before it goes off from any mode , is this normal ??
 
My SC52W L2 have like 1 sec delay before it goes off from any mode , is this normal ??

Yes, it has to decide whether you're about to do a double-press to change modes, or if you're just doing a single press to turn off the light. So there's about a half-second delay before the light decides it's just a single click and turns off the light.
 
Less than a second...but there is a slight delay being an electronic switch. It's normal.

Yes, it has to decide whether you're about to do a double-press to change modes, or if you're just doing a single press to turn off the light. So there's about a half-second delay before the light decides it's just a single click and turns off the light.

Thanks guys :)
 
Zebralight SC52w Review


When the SC52 came out and its specs were released, there was a peal of cathedral bells. That was the death knell of the CR123a EDC light. There is no real reason to opt for the more expensive CR123a cells anymore, this from an avowed CR123a-only guy, less than two years ago. The performance gap was closing then and now it is almost gone. Sure the S10 Baton from Olight and the F1 from LED Lenser still hit higher highs than the SC52w, but the reality is the difference between them in terms of real world performance is almost meaningless and certainly not enough to justify the increased expense.
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The Armytek Partner A1/A2 (XM-L2 version) both output constant 330 lumens on AA batteries. If you put in 14500, it'll output 700 lumens. These lights are even floodier than Zebralight and can throw over 90m. I have both Armytek and Zebralight sc52wl2 and find them both great. The only cons on Armytek for me is it can't tail stand and no moonlight mode. Other than that, it's the best AA light out there.
 
My SC52w L2 arrived yesterday. I got a great NW tint. No green or orange at all ... just beautiful. It is better than my E03 NW which was my favourite till now. The UI works perfectly. Anyway, when I insert the battery (14500 or eneloop) and screw the tailcap it has a short flash. I think it occurs when the battery tube touches the contact area of the tailcap. What do you think about this?
 
My SC52w L2 arrived yesterday. I got a great NW tint. No green or orange at all ... just beautiful. It is better than my E03 NW which was my favourite till now. The UI works perfectly. Anyway, when I insert the battery (14500 or eneloop) and screw the tailcap it has a short flash. I think it occurs when the battery tube touches the contact area of the tailcap. What do you think about this?

Normal. Both my old SC52 and new SC52w-L2 do that.
 
Thanks for the answer. I have just realized that it works with flat top 14500. I have some unused unprotected 14500 IMR and I put one in the light to see what happens. Seems that those U-shaped contacts at the head are raised enough to touch the positive pole of the cell. And with IMR cells it is even brighter on H1(or so it seems to me).
 
I've had my sc52w for almost a year now and it covers all my lighting needs. At the time there was no other choice to compare on one aa for output/runtime. I like the warm, yellow tint as it gives good colour rendition. Obviously due to its size it is quite floody so great for close up work and area illumination. I carry it as back up while out walking, my main light being my SR52vn :devil:
 
Not to mention the low low, runtime measured in months on a single aa!! If I were marooned on a desert island this would be my flashlight choice :thumbsup:
 
Not to mention the low low, runtime measured in months on a single aa!! If I were marooned on a desert island this would be my flashlight choice :thumbsup:

It's not really months, that's an exaggeration by Zebralight, at least for a rechargeable battery. You'd get longer from a lithium-ion primary.

Based on my current measurements for the moonlight modes, on a 2000 mAh battery you should get the following:

Low 2a : 5.2 mA (16 days)
Low 2b : 2.4 mA (34 days)
Low 2c : 2.0 mA (41 days)

Considering the brightness difference between the 2 lowest modes, it's surprising they use almost the same current.
 
Not to mention the low low, runtime measured in months on a single aa!! If I were marooned on a desert island this would be my flashlight choice :thumbsup:

Yup without question, the SC52 does have the best sub-lumen efficiency "specs" in the 1xAA class, and I'm pretty sure in the 3v (CR123, 2xAA) class as well ;).

It's not really months, that's an exaggeration by Zebralight, at least for a rechargeable battery. You'd get longer from a lithium-ion primary.

Based on my current measurements for the moonlight modes, on a 2000 mAh battery you should get the following:

Low 2a : 5.2 mA (16 days)
Low 2b : 2.4 mA (34 days)
Low 2c : 2.0 mA (41 days)

Considering the brightness difference between the 2 lowest modes, it's surprising they use almost the same current.

Shouldn't be a surprise - we were both on the same side of another "discussion" on efficiency and how some of these circuits tend to use more power than the LED itself at increasingly dimmer sub-lumen levels. My side-by-side efficiency test of "bright" 0.2+ lumen moonlight modes (Malkoff, Peak, Quarks, D25s, SC52) on 1xAAAAs does dove-tail with your ~2 week tailcap current estimates on L2a, though.

But runtime exaggeration is only half of it - the SC52s sub-lumen output is so far off spec (by many multiples), that despite it actually running the longest on L2a (92 hrs) in my test, it came in dead last in terms of efficiency (lm-hrs, or lumens x hours). HERE'S what the SC52s 0.34/0.06/0.01 modes look like next to the 0.09 lm TN T10 and 0.02 lm L3 L10 "firefly" modes (the latter also off spec by multiples).
 
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