The Official Malkoff Junkie thread - Part 2

[Illluminator]

Also has someone done a lux reading for the E2/Scout head? I have an E2DLU on order as a replacement for the cancelled LX2TU and the dual output head probably won't work for weapon mounting (do to the mode switching with recoil). I'm leaning toward getting this head for a weapon-mounted option.

 

[Grizzman]

Gene said in the MDC thread that the LED assembly isn't removable from the head, so I seriously doubt this one will be either.

I can measure it in about an hour. The E2DL2 impressed me fully with its performance.

I really hope Surefire updates the single output KX2C to become an Ultra.

Grizz

 

[Illluminator]

Ok thanks! A Scout Light head sold separately would be great (they actually seem to be the X300U head with a lower lux and runtime: http://surefire.stage.guidance.com/m600u-a-scout-light.html ). Looking forward to hearing the measurements as this is definitely going to be a lot cheaper solution.

 

[Greenbean]

I put this together with an 18350 and one of my WC heads, courtesy of Martin and the "MD1" conversion!

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...uot-MD1-quot&p=4144743&viewfull=1#post4144743

 

[PoliceScannerMan]

Look that that lil Malkoff Kitty.

Nice!

 

[BenChiew]

Look that that lil Malkoff Kitty.

Nice!

+1.
Infant WC perhaps?

 

[Greenbean]

And since it's technically still a 3.7V Li-Ion, both modes work, lol....

Awesome little pocket light...

 

[Greenbean]

And I got my high/low rings installed in the heads of my M91A, and my M61NSHO, WOW, all I need now are three more MD3 bodies, or maybe two MD3 bodies and another MD4,

I have one more high/low ring left destined for a M61 219 HO, can't wait to compare them, I could see the M91A being used during the day and the M61NSHO being used at night, the low modes are beautiful and so worth having. IMHO,

Oh and I got my first Mag drop in, I installed a 3-6D XP-G2 into an old old D mag, had to get the adapter sleeve also, Tell you what, for running on alkaline batteries a 3D Mag with this drop in is great, no worries, just hand it to someone and off they go... I am using an old KD MOP reflector also that had the removable cam, Lol.. I knew those old removable cam reflectors would come in handy sometime.

 

[Grizzman]

Alright. It's time to see how much lux the E2/Scout head provides. I can test it with both CR123s, since that's what I'll be using, and RCR123s. I don't think the voltage difference between these cell setups will provide much of a performance difference. I don't have any fully charged RCRs, so I just put a couple onto the PILA and began to top them off.

The measurement will be taken with my Extech EasyView 30 meter at a distance of 1 meter. The head will be attached to a Surefire E2L Outdoorsman body, with standard E-Series tailcap. For entertainment purposes, I will also measure an XP-G2 M61 engine driven by two CR123s, since that's the Malkoff engine most likely to be used in the same manner.....weapon-mounted. The M61 engine will be in a VME head on the same body/tailcap assembly.

E2/Scout head w/ 2X CR123 - 3.44 Klux
E2/Scout head w/ 2X RCR123 - 4.07 Klux
XP-G2 M61 w/ 2X CR123 - 3.22 Klux
XP-G2 M61 w/ 2X RCR123 - 5.01 Klux

Grizz

 

[greatscoot]

I put this together with an 18350 and one of my WC heads, courtesy of Martin and the "MD1" conversion!

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...uot-MD1-quot&p=4144743&viewfull=1#post4144743

LOL. I was thinking of getting a WC and doing the same thing.

 

[cland72]

Alright. It's time to see how much lux the E2/Scout head provides. I can test it with both CR123s, since that's what I'll be using, and RCR123s. I don't think the voltage difference between these cell setups will provide much of a performance difference. I don't have any fully charged RCRs, so I just put a couple onto the PILA and began to top them off.

The measurement will be taken with my Extech EasyView 30 meter at a distance of 1 meter. The head will be attached to a Surefire E2L Outdoorsman body, with standard E-Series tailcap. For entertainment purposes, I will also measure an XP-G2 M61 engine driven by two CR123s, since that's the Malkoff engine most likely to be used in the same manner.....weapon-mounted. The M61 engine will be in a VME head on the same body/tailcap assembly.

E2/Scout head w/ 2X CR123 - 3.44 Klux
E2/Scout head w/ 2X RCR123 - 4.07 Klux
XP-G2 M61 w/ 2X CR123 - 3.22 Klux
XP-G2 M61 w/ 2X RCR123 - 5.01 Klux

Grizz

Excellent, thanks!

 

[the badger]

What is Klux?

 

[Norm]

Can anybody suggest the best way to prevent the 123A cells from rattling in my Hound Dog's MD3 body?


*Sorry for the large text. My post is bound to get lost in this messy disaster of a thread and I wanted people to see it before that happens

Someone suggests that the 1/2 in poly drip tubing that used for drip irrigation system sold at HD works perfectly:

Keep in mind the walls of your tube need to be around 1mm, as the battery is around 16mm and the tube around 18mm.

Norm

 

[Illluminator]

Alright. It's time to see how much lux the E2/Scout head provides. I can test it with both CR123s, since that's what I'll be using, and RCR123s. I don't think the voltage difference between these cell setups will provide much of a performance difference. I don't have any fully charged RCRs, so I just put a couple onto the PILA and began to top them off.

The measurement will be taken with my Extech EasyView 30 meter at a distance of 1 meter. The head will be attached to a Surefire E2L Outdoorsman body, with standard E-Series tailcap. For entertainment purposes, I will also measure an XP-G2 M61 engine driven by two CR123s, since that's the Malkoff engine most likely to be used in the same manner.....weapon-mounted. The M61 engine will be in a VME head on the same body/tailcap assembly.

E2/Scout head w/ 2X CR123 - 3.44 Klux
E2/Scout head w/ 2X RCR123 - 4.07 Klux
XP-G2 M61 w/ 2X CR123 - 3.22 Klux
XP-G2 M61 w/ 2X RCR123 - 5.01 Klux

Grizz

thanks! How far out can you realistically hit a target with that lux? Compared to the E2DLU it doesn't seem that intense.

 

[Illluminator]

KLux is thousand lux, which I think is the same as candela at 1m

 

[Redhat703]

What is Klux?

1 klux = 1 kilolux = 1000 lux, SI units.

 

[Grizzman]

What is Klux?

1 Klux = 1000 lux

 

[cland72]

Just sold a KX2C head I'd been running on my scout light and immediately ordered a Malkoff E2. Looking forward to the additional flood since the KX2C doesn't seem to light up the peripheral area as much as it probably should. Not to mention I can put it on my E2DL on occasion!

 

[Grizzman]

thanks! How far out can you realistically hit a target with that lux? Compared to the E2DLU it doesn't seem that intense.

It is more of a close to mid range solution. The general rule I follow is that 2 lux is needed for definite target identification. About a month ago, I took some measurements at 100 yards with a Hound Dog, M60, M61 SHO, LX2 and a Nailbender XM-L2 engine. I just grabbed the note pad into which I wrote the results.

The LX2 did 1.01 lux, the M60 did .72 lux, and the M61 SHO did .65 lux. The LX2 did 1.01. The XM-L2 NB did 1.22 lux. The Cool Hound Dog did 2.70, and the Neutral one did 2.44.

When I was measuring the E2DLU at 1 meter (it did 18,360 lux) , I grabbed the Neutral Hound Dog which did a little north of 21,000. I suspect the E2DLU will be usable out to 125 or so yards. The park where I took my measurements has enough space for measurements out to about 150 yards.

If the weather is nice this weekend, I plan to enlist the help of a friend to see at what distance the Cool Hound Dog, the E2DLU, and a yet to be delivered NB XP-G2 OP reflectored unit provide 2 lux. Naturally, results will be posted here.

Grizz

 

[Grizzman]

I also don't consider the E2DL/KX2C head to be a very good weapon-mounted solution, due to the lack of spill. For distances out to 50 yards or so, I think the E2 head will work very well indeed.

The slightly narrower reflector concentrates the light more than an M61, and provides very usable spill.

Grizz