HDS Systems EDC # 18

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BingoBongo

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@FroggyTaco

Thank you,i will check it.

@ForrestChump

Thank you for sharing your knowledge! I hope we all make not the expierience of an EMP!! But you are right,when us hit an EMP,Flashlights are not the major Problem.

Henry stated their Lights as EMP proof,and for my knowing,its the only Brand that says our Lights are EMP proof.
So im not sure if Henry do something special at the Electronic side,against the EMP (Anti-EMP-Diode...:):)..),or is the design of the HDS (or flashlights) generally EMP safe.
I trust Henry 100% and the Light specs .

Thanks from Germany
Marc
 

rickyro

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No photo on HDS website.... that's OK. Here is one in the wild....followed by a shot in the darkness.

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That looks great!

It seems that this is a great solution equally doing what McGizmo Sundrop is doing in a different approach, and much less expensive!

I really want to try this with my two HDS.
 

recDNA

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The hyper red is so pretty I wish I could think of a use for it. Just as well. No more left.
 

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I like that beam! Guess I ll have to boost my efforts in obtaining one on the WTB section. If I had one I d use it for traffic management. Maybe another project for a group buy? :)) on a side note wonder how the flood beam will be with the dark adaptation red?
 

ForrestChump

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@FroggyTaco

Thank you,i will check it.

@ForrestChump

Thank you for sharing your knowledge! I hope we all make not the expierience of an EMP!! But you are right,when us hit an EMP,Flashlights are not the major Problem.

Henry stated their Lights as EMP proof,and for my knowing,its the only Brand that says our Lights are EMP proof.
So im not sure if Henry do something special at the Electronic side,against the EMP (Anti-EMP-Diode...:):)..),or is the design of the HDS (or flashlights) generally EMP safe.
I trust Henry 100% and the Light specs .

Thanks from Germany
Marc

Yes, the lights are EMP proof to my knowledge and has been stated so by Henry. The reason HDS is the only one to claim so ( Im not sure if he "advertises" it can someone provide a link? ) is because he is the only one to actually test a light. I have no idea how one does that or what equipment is involved, but pretty much every other manufacturer either doesn't have access to the equipment or simply doesn't bother with it. On the clicky, the tailcap leaves only the button exposed with more of the tail end covered by more metal then most, when you remove that there is a mouse click type button that is mounted to a green board. I believe this is mounted onto another aluminum board, but do not know for certain. From what Ive read, the more metal around the electronics the better, but then there's the argument that something has to be grounded to resist the EMP, not simply encapsulated in mesh or metal.

I believe, in regards to the HDS, it's the extra metal in the light along with the length of the actual electronics is what would prohibit the EMP from causing damage, but this is really a question for Henry as he is an ocean of information, where Im more like a grain of sand.

Again, based on my very limited knowledge most well made metal lights, in theory, should be EMP resistant. Take the Malkoff MDC. It may not have the metal around the Mclicky switch to insulate it but the metal body and all the electronics in the brass heat sink are relatively compact and tight. In addition to the compact electronics the board is then surrounded in brass then aluminum although there are openings, based on length and the amount of metal, this sort of light should be OK as well, but as mentioned, HDS is the only manufacturer to my knowledge that has built and tested a light in regards to EMP. EMP being a major part of the buying decision HDS is it.
 
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BingoBongo

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No,dont underrated your knowlegde,ForrestChump! Your explaination make sense and you bring some very good points to the air. If there no long wires who can catch the energy from the EMP,the risk of high voltage is reduced.

Greetz Marc
 

the.Mtn.Man

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Sorry for the newbie question;
Can one order a rotary CR123 and a clickie 18650 for the same head?
This was answered already, but I thought I'd add a little more information:

The Rotary has a second "brain" in the tail of the flashlight that communicates with the head so that the dial can do its magic. Without that second brain, the Rotary head won't operate.
 

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This was answered already, but I thought I'd add a little more information:

The Rotary has a second "brain" in the tail of the flashlight that communicates with the head so that the dial can do its magic. Without that second brain, the Rotary head won't operate.

Ok, so the rotary tail and head combo are tailored to one another and only that combo (rotary head and rotary tail) will function together?

Yeah, I found this confusing as well because I have never come across this being clearly stated. But I have not read 25k posts in these threads either. :)
 

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Probably unnecessary to share here as everyone knows that HDS takes care of their customers. I received a rotary back from HDS this week and all of my concerns with the light I sent in were addressed. Henry really went above and beyond.
 

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Hjkl, it never hurts to speak great words when deserved... Even if "most" of us here know this not everyone does. I used to be in the not everyone does crowd till I had my own experience and now I m another proud HDS customer with the rest of you. I ve had Surefire for years and still do but Henry gave me time, answered any questions I had, fixed my light... And he has my business first and foremost. As an American I strive to support our people and our products and HDS Systems has the right idea and has gained my loyalty and business.
 

physicsmajor

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Ok, so the rotary tail and head combo are tailored to one another and only that combo (rotary head and rotary tail) will function together?

Yeah, I found this confusing as well because I have never come across this being clearly stated. But I have not read 25k posts in these threads either. :)

You can Lego any rotary style head with another rotary style tail. I swapped my tactical and rotary tails recently, and it works.

However, the Tac head still behaves as a Tac and the rotary head still behaves as a rotary. The tail encoders function identically, the brain in the head interprets the same signal to yield different behavior. I suspect this also works with the button only styles but haven't tested it.

The more you know...
 

recDNA

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Probably unnecessary to share here as everyone knows that HDS takes care of their customers. I received a rotary back from HDS this week and all of my concerns with the light I sent in were addressed. Henry really went above and beyond.
Is that true even if light is purchased from a dealer?
 

recDNA

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You can Lego any rotary style head with another rotary style tail. I swapped my tactical and rotary tails recently, and it works.

However, the Tac head still behaves as a Tac and the rotary head still behaves as a rotary. The tail encoders function identically, the brain in the head interprets the same signal to yield different behavior. I suspect this also works with the button only styles but haven't tested it.

The more you know...
Does Henry sell rotary tails? It would be neat to use tac interface with one tail and regular rotary with the other. I wouldn't need 2 heads.
 
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