Very limited diffuse reflector going on sale

[bigburly912]

Ok. First impressions, there are lots of imperfections in the reflector which I expected being a coating.They do not effect the beam at all, no artifacts. As stated bigger hotspot with more spill which is exactly what I needed for my hunting light. Made my low setting extremely low (which I also wanted). Works well. I'm happy with it. I'd imagine some people will freak out with the imperfections but this is a product made to be used not to look pretty.

https://postimg.cc/gallery/2stbzw48s/

Tried to show the spots where the coating didn't totally take. Also small pebble looking pieces. This doesn't bother me at all but wanted show what is there. I give it a 9/10 does exactly what I hoped it would do!

 

[Modernflame]

Outdoor beam shots?

 

[emarkd]

Not at all surprising. I've painted with those GITD powders and suspensions before too, they are not fun to work with. Gritty, funky stuff really. But they work well.

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

Not at all surprising. I've painted with those GITD powders and suspensions before too, they are not fun to work with. Gritty, funky stuff really. But they work well.

They so suck to make. Getting the right suspension for them with the right surface tension... then flipping them every 5 minutes for an hour, then every 10 minutes for the next hour, then every 15 minutes for the next hour, then every 20 for the next hour... this continues for 10 hours. No. I am not kidding. It's a custom mixed suspension and when dry, leaves a shiny finish. We now added another step to get the 90% diffuse... and we are now coating them... twice, so that same flipping has to happen yet again, though the next batch looks absolutely stellar after all of this. Still need some more testing on the next batch, but the phosphor is from... Nichia, and it is a phosphor that is no longer available from them. Initials tests on it are very good for glowing even longer... and it isn't green. This is what Henry had picked up... 15 years ago. Yep. Things move very slowly at HDS!

It's interesting to note that Nichia, long before they ever made their first LED, was a phosphor and calcium salts company. They have great phosphor mines.

 

[bigburly912]

Outdoor beam shots?

I don't have any outdoor shots to compare it to but I can take some with an iPhone if you'd like. Don't know how much that will help. It is an emitter swapped xp-g2 so you can imagine the throw it had. This significantly cut the throw and provided more spill. I'm extremely happy with it. It did 100% what I needed it to. I tree stand hunt, I need a low mode floody light and this provided it perfectly.

 

[greatscoot]

They so suck to make. Getting the right suspension for them with the right surface tension... then flipping them every 5 minutes for an hour, then every 10 minutes for the next hour, then every 15 minutes for the next hour, then every 20 for the next hour... this continues for 10 hours. No. I am not kidding. It's a custom mixed suspension and when dry, leaves a shiny finish. We now added another step to get the 90% diffuse... and we are now coating them... twice, so that same flipping has to happen yet again, though the next batch looks absolutely stellar after all of this. Still need some more testing on the next batch, but the phosphor is from... Nichia, and it is a phosphor that is no longer available from them. Initials tests on it are very good for glowing even longer... and it isn't green. This is what Henry had picked up... 15 years ago. Yep. Things move very slowly at HDS!

It's interesting to note that Nichia, long before they ever made their first LED, was a phosphor and calcium salts company. They have great phosphor mines.

Wow, that's pretty intensive.

 

[Modernflame]

I like the current smooth reflector very much. Sometimes I think all that's lacking is an orange peel option. (I'm aware that these are scheduled for a resurrection.) Still, one can imagine a continuum of beam shapes from a variety of reflectors. I'd be grateful for some comparison photography in real life usage (e.g. reading a book, walking the dog, lusting over a flashlight collection. Normal stuff.).

 

[JKolmo]

Wow, sounds even more intense than fine winemaking! But I sense that you will offer a second no green batch of these puppies, no? That would be great for us slow fingered paypal users...[emoji3]

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

Wow, sounds even more intense than fine winemaking! But I sense that you will offer a second no green batch of these puppies, no? That would be great for us slow fingered paypal users...[emoji3]

Yes. We will be doing a couple more batches. This next one we are working on should be ready in... two weeks! No. Seriously. 2 weeks.

 

[redryder]

I don't know what dimensions/axis you have to rotate the reflector but I wonder if you can make something out of Lego to do it. No, I'm not joking. Look at these videos:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzkiu9uhgU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z7-4g-XWHM4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQdlCQmzUAM

They so suck to make. Getting the right suspension for them with the right surface tension... then flipping them every 5 minutes for an hour, then every 10 minutes for the next hour, then every 15 minutes for the next hour, then every 20 for the next hour... this continues for 10 hours. No. I am not kidding. It's a custom mixed suspension and when dry, leaves a shiny finish. We now added another step to get the 90% diffuse... and we are now coating them... twice, so that same flipping has to happen yet again, though the next batch looks absolutely stellar after all of this. Still need some more testing on the next batch, but the phosphor is from... Nichia, and it is a phosphor that is no longer available from them. Initials tests on it are very good for glowing even longer... and it isn't green. This is what Henry had picked up... 15 years ago. Yep. Things move very slowly at HDS!

It's interesting to note that Nichia, long before they ever made their first LED, was a phosphor and calcium salts company. They have great phosphor mines.

 

[emarkd]

Well I didn't have lego in my head, although those are really cool projects, but I had also had the thought that some of that rotating and tilting could be automated without too much trouble. Probably not worth it if HDS is only going to be producing a couple dozen pieces or whatever, but if this is something that's going to become a standard offering then its probably worth building something to do this work for you all. But then there's an engineer on staff so he's probably got plans for that drawn up already

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

I don't know what dimensions/axis you have to rotate the reflector but I wonder if you can make something out of Lego to do it. No, I'm not joking. Look at these videos:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzkiu9uhgU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z7-4g-XWHM4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQdlCQmzUAM

Those are very cool, but I don't think they would last long at the temperature we use to cure and harden the surface.

 

[INFRNL]

What kind of quantity will this next run be? There needs to be enough to hit the 3min checkout mark...then maybe i can try one. I'll definitely be sure not to use my phone this time, that was a huge mistake

 

[WarriorOfLight]

At all this reflectors are really tempting, but $75 for shipping a $60 item was it not worth to me. Therefore I even did not tired it to grab one.

 

[nbp]

You could think of it as $10 to ship a $125 item...

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

I think only 1 person who tried to snag 2 actually got 2. Several of the orders we had to cancel were trying to get 2, and perhaps the extra time pushed them to the end. Not sure, but it kind of looked that way.

Should have 18 or 19 in the next batch. I don't know cost yet as the time to make them was over double the first run.

 

[peter yetman]

You could think of it as $10 to ship a $125 item...

That's such a positive way to think, thank you N.
P

 

[Tejasandre]

So. Does this belong on a 3o'clock , or the 4500 ?

 

[Tejasandre]

So , how are you guys separating the bezels & reflectors?

 

[INFRNL]

Get a second 4500k, one floody, 1 regular

Very carefully to separate bezel and reflector. There are many ways.
I use one of those kitchen grippy things.
I think hogo posted a video once using the sole of a shoe
Just shear hand strength
Carefully protect the assembly and use channel locks (preferably made for pipe)
Etc...etc