Zebralight SC64c

[likethevegetable]

Woohoo, congrats, glad you like it.

I wish ZL put more effort into their clips and headlamp mounts. The H600 IV clip is crap, the SC600 clip needs a smooth part for the clip to sit on (luckily I prefer my SC600w IV without a clip), the only one I have that is useful is my H53Fc, but I aesthetically I'm not a big fan.

Anyway, looks great. I'm feeling super tempted to join the club...

 

[Random Dan]

Great anodizing color on that one especially against that black clip!

At this rate you're gonna need to change your sig to 'GOOD ANODIZING COLOR!'

 

[markr6]

At this rate you're gonna need to change your sig to 'GOOD ANODIZING COLOR!'

I had that coming :laughing:

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Emarkd, it looks like the light has a crack above the tail cap. Am I seeing that right?

 

[Tachead]

Emarkd, it looks like the light has a crack above the tail cap. Am I seeing that right?

I think it's an eyelash lol.

 

[emarkd]

I think it's an eyelash lol.

Lol yeah, or maybe a dog hair. Looks like it got stuck in the oring grease when I was putting the cell in. I didn't notice it until someone else pointed it out. Sorry...

 

[Tachead]

Lol yeah, or maybe a dog hair. Looks like it got stuck in the oring grease when I was putting the cell in. I didn't notice it until someone else pointed it out. Sorry...

No problem man lol. Heck I have to tell people they "will" get a dog hair in their food when they eat at my house(it's near impossible to keep them out of everything I own... Or eat).

 

[AB8XL]

I received my SC64c LE today along with the monster SC700d and SC53Fc, I'm very impressed with them all, but I think the SC64c LE will be my new EDC, I really like the tint and color of the Samsung LH351D.

 

[LightObsession]

That SC64 LE is pulling at my heart strings 😍

 

[P220C]

Mine came in yesterday, too and it's a real winner.

 

[Bob_McBob]

Zebralight has confirmed to me the SC64c is now discontinued in favour of the SC64c LE, which I suppose wasn't a very difficult decision. It did make availability for both models extremely spotty until just recently. I finally managed to get my hands on a batch of LEs, and I am pretty pleased with the copy I tested. Unlike the XP-L2 version which was exceedingly green and got even greener on turbo, the LE I tested is sort of green (Duv ~0.0035) on most modes, and gets progressively more neutral on the H levels until it's perfectly neutral on H1. It's better than the one I built myself with T5 tint bin LH351Ds, which only reaches Duv 0.0011 on H1. You can also see a behaviour I've noticed with LH351Ds in general where R9 gets progressively lower as current increases, though at 3A the LE doesn't really suffer in any meaningful way.

For comparison, here's a 219B sw45k R9080 SC64c on M1 and H1 (only level where it gets really pink):

CCT = 4338K (Duv -0.0037)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 92.9 [ R9 = 83.0 ]

CCT = 4466K (Duv -0.0082)
Color Rendering Index (Ra) = 94.2 [ R9 = 85.6 ]

 

[JimIslander]

Received mine (SC64c LE) March 4 after ordering on Feb. 28. My new EDC. Love everything about this light.

 

[Mr. LED]

If the SC64c was discontinued and replaced with the LE, then the limited edition is not so limited maybe?

 

[Mattz68]

I've had my 64LE for about 3 weeks now and I gotta say: this little guy rocks! Fit and finish perfect, tint and cri -outstanding. But the icing on cake for me..Zebralight FINALLY upgraded their switch. Nice and grippy rubber boot cover, no air or hollow felling as you press. Perfect "click" and travel as one presses. Feels like an 80$ flashlight now. Also, I have keep reminding myself (because of its size) -this isn't a AA light -its 18650! People considering this light should know that it has very little throw. The beam pattern is best suited for edc, around the house, campsite, etc.

 

[KITROBASKIN]

If the SC64c was discontinued and replaced with the LE, then the limited edition is not so limited maybe?

Curious indeed.

After maybe 4 years of not buying a new Zebralight, this stable of a rarely used LEE Filtered 1/4 minus green SC52 and three SC62d (one for shelf duty backup previously-now used nightly by my wife in our rather unique living situation, two for rotating between nightly home use and keeping in work pack -occasional use) has been joined by the SC64 LE. Definitely agree with posts written by members. Wanted to say that a good quality Nichia 219c from the likes of Oveready, and in my case, Emisar also, will probably be more appealing to some members here. This is evident to me ONLY when directly comparing them on a white wall; not a real-life application for sure.
Also wanted to reaffirm that the lowest low is nowhere near the sub-lumen goodness of the SC62d, especially one of my units. But, you know what? It works fine late at night with fully adapted night eyes. It probably is more versatile in that it is useful at longer range without blasting night adapted eyes too badly.

Could a CPF member lend a helping hand? The written directions with the LE do not offer the advanced programming instructions. Does this model offer it? I have not searched the Zebralight website, just hoping someone could tell me where it is. Does it have PID adjustment? Thanks in advance!

 

[ven]

Congrats kitro, it is on the zebra under advanced, here a copy

• Basic Operation
  
  • One short-click turns on the light to High or turns off the light.
  • Two short-click turns on the light to Medium.
  • Three short-click turns on the light to the beacon-strobe mode.
  • Press and hold (for over 0.6 seconds) turns on the light to Low and then Medium and High. Release at the desired level.
• Advanced Operation and Configuration
  • Press and hold to cycle from Low, Medium and High, release at the desired level to set. When press and hold, the light always cycle from Low to High regardless which level you are currently in.
  • Double click to toggle and select between the two sub-levels for that main level. Sub-level selections for the 3 main levels are memorized after the light is turned off and through battery changes.
  • The second sub-level (H2, M2 and L2) of each main levels can be further programmed to different brightness levels. At a main level, double-click 6 times to start configuration. On subsequent double-clicks the light will cycle through different brightness levels. Short click to turn off the light when finishing configurations. The selections for the second sub-levels are memorized after the light is turned off and through battery changes.
  • This light uses the main LED (flashing 1 to 4 times) to indicate the estimated remaining capacity of the battery. To start the battery indicator, (from Off) short-click 4 times without pause.
  • Beacon-strobe mode can be accessed from 3 short-clicks when the light is Off. Once in the beacon-strobe mode, you can double-click to cycle through different types of beacons and strobes. Beacon-strobe settings are memorized when the light is turned off and through battery changes.
• PID Thermal Regulation Temperature Programming for two highest output levels
  • Turn off the light from H1 and then turn back on to H1
  • Press and hold to cycle from Low to High 6 times
  • On the 7th (or more) cycle, release the switch
    • when High, to add 1 degree C (up to 5 max)
    • when Med, to revert back to the factory default
    • when Low, to subtract 1 degree C (up to 5 max)
• Multiple Mode Groups
  • This light comes with three mode groups, G5, G6 and G7. The G5, set as the factory default, can be selected with 5-click from OFF, while G6 and G7 can be selected with 6-click and 7-click from OFF respectively. Mode group selections are memorized after the light is turned off and through battery changes.
  • In all three mode groups
    • H can be either H1 or H2; M can be either M1 or M2; L can be either L1 or L2
    • from OFF: 1-click to H; 2-click to M; press and hold to cycle from L, M to H
  • In G5
    • H1 is fixed at 900Lm, H2 can be 579, 341, or 183Lm
    • M1 is fixed at 90Lm, M2 can be 40, 16.6, or 6.2Lm
    • L1 is fixed at 2.1Lm, L2 can be 0.67, 0.19, or 0.05Lm
  • In G6 and G7
    • H1, H2, M1, M2, L1 and L2 can be programmed to any of the 12 available brightness levels
    • Double-click 6 times at the H1, H2, ...L2 to enter the programming mode for that level. Once in the programming mode, use double-click to go up one level and triple-click to go down one level. Use 1-click to exit the programming mode
    • Three consecutive 5-click (or 6-click, 7-click) to reset the G5 (or G6, G7) back to the factory default settings

 

[Mr. LED]

Hi! Yes it does have the advanced programming and PID. You can read the details in the updated manual http://www.zebralight.com/assets/images/ZebraLightUserGuide2019.pdf

or

"Multiple UI Groups

This light comes with three UI groups, G5, G6, and G7. The G5, set as the factory default, can be selected with 5 clicks from Off, while G6 and G7 can be selected with 6 clicks and 7 clicks from Off respectively. UI group selections are memorized after the light is turned off and through battery changes.

In all three UI groups, from Off: 1-click to H (H1 or H2), 2-click to M (M1 or M2), press and hold to cycle from L (L1 or L2), and then to M and H.
In the G5 UI group, brightness levels of the H1, M1 and L1 are fixed, while the H2, M2 and L2 can be programmed. In the G6 and G7, all six (H1, H2, M1, M2, L1, and L2) modes can be programmed to any of the 12 available brightness levels.

To program the G6 or G7:

1. Enter the G6 or G7 with 6 or 7 clicks from Off.
2. Double-click 6 times at H1, H2, ... L2 to enter the programming
mode for that level. Once in the programming mode, use double- click to go up one level and triple-click to go down one level. Use 1- click to exit the programming mode.
3. If needed, use 15, 18, and 21 clicks from Off, to reset to the factory default settings of the G5, G6, and G7 UI groups."

Enjoy your LE. At the moment I'm in love with my SC64w HI.

Oops ven has a faster trigger than me

 

[JimIslander]

Curious indeed.

Could a CPF member lend a helping hand? The written directions with the LE do not offer the advanced programming instructions. Does this model offer it? I have not searched the Zebralight website, just hoping someone could tell me where it is. Does it have PID adjustment? Thanks in advance!

Instructions are on the website. I know...crazy that the PDF instructions also don't have this info, just the website.

NOTE: Instead of trying to double or triple click X-times, just click the total number of times required. E.G. instead of 5 double clicks just click 10 times. Easier than trying to double or triple and equally effective.

 

[iamlucky13]

Curious indeed.

This makes it less curious:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...surements-or-quot-why-2-step-means-squat-quot

A lot of users have been bothered by the greenish tint in the XP-L2, and I think even more so by the tint shift across the beam. I've seen numerous users here say they sent theirs back and requested a better sample. It sounds like Zebralight has been generally pretty helpful about those requests, but that kind of customer support costs money.

With around half the DUV, and less tint shift across the beam, I'd bet Zebralight got a lot fewer complaints about the LE, which would tell them right away which emitter is likely to cost them less in returns and earn them more repeat customers.

By the way, I have two Convoy S2+'s that are identical except for one is 219C and the other is LH351D. I can confirm the LH351D is pretty close in light quality to the 219C. I'd rank the 219C slightly more neutral and slightly better at red rendering, but it's not an obvious difference. The bigger difference is the LH351D is floodier.

 

[KITROBASKIN]

Thanks so much!
Mr. LED: Seems like the SC64w HI is an excellent choice.

Ven: You are the best.

JimIslander: Great idea!

iamlucky13: Thanks for the background info. Nichia 219c has been somewhat disappointing for some, early adopters perhaps more so. I have a P60 dropin from mtnelectronics that has a ho-hum tint. Guess I got lucky with the Emisar. Problem is, that Emisar is glitchy and can not be counted on in the field without another torch on hand. Oveready had to wait quite a while to get the kind of tint they demand for their emitters. Some would consider best advice is to not get hung up on white wall comparisons unless it is a passion for you. If the tint is not distracting in actual use, you are good to go. Would think Zebralight is still not wanting to do business with Nichia, and that's OK, right?