I just wanted details to why that's all. I'm looking to either purchase the w30 or the maxtoch. So now I know your reasoning, it's helping with my choice. If you would have said the maxtoch has a wider bigger hotspot, then I definitely would have chosen the maxtoch. But since I like cool white, and the smaller size, I'm gonna go with w30 now. Thanks for the info Rasher.
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Glenn7
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I thought about getting the Xsword but in the pix and video's the tint looked green.
The W30 got me with size, cool white tint ss bezel, tripod mount and being waterproof to 100 meters, included 21700 battery with built in micro USB charging (on battery) and cable, a battery status light plus cheaper price got me.
The W30 got me with size, cool white tint ss bezel, tripod mount and being waterproof to 100 meters, included 21700 battery with built in micro USB charging (on battery) and cable, a battery status light plus cheaper price got me.
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twistedraven
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Maxtoch provides green filter with the Xsword IIRC. Some beamshots were with filter on. Default beam should be a warm white.
Rasher
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It is quite yellow, but only noticeable white wall hunting. Outdoors at night seems pretty nice to my eyes for getting the job done. Have had no need to try filter out, but it indeed comes with one.
Where did you find a cheaper price? I'd like to buy the W30 but I'm having a hard time making a decision because of the price.
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Glenn7
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1.8 Mcd seems quite low? even if you get slightly different readings from different meters, 600Kcd is a lot of variance.
Rasher said he prefers the Xsword for practical use, maybe it has a wider profile beam? So I wonder does it throw better than the W30.
twistedraven
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1.8m kcd is 2600 meters of throw, that is not low. In order for the light to throw far it has to have a beam doesn't diverge very much. It's probably as thin as the W30.
Please do. But please be careful to always use appropriate eye protections, warn others not to enter the room etc. You can find the standard list of stuff to take care of online.
These are dangerous toys...
OnlyownEnergizer250lumen
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archimedes
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Not entirely joking, I believe .... Modders should be aware that LEP contains a ( shielded? ) laser, as I understand this.
Disassembly would require additional safety precautions, beyond what might be usual for traditional flashlights.
Disassembly would require additional safety precautions, beyond what might be usual for traditional flashlights.
Alex1234
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how much of a throw difference is there between the W30 and Maxtoch? I ordered the W30 because i had no idea maxtoch created a lep light. if its not a substantial difference i will just stick with the W30. If it is ill have to order the maxtoch aswell
Rasher
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Both can throw (in a truly dark surroundings) far enough you'd want optics. For "practical, usable" throw (~1/3 to 1/2 the FL-1), the difference to my eyes is small - a bit brighter at those distances with the Maxtoch. The latter is also much warmer, so if there's mist/etc., it cuts through a bit better.
Like I said earlier, I'd be fine with either. I'd venture the Maxtoch should have a bit longer runtime by virtue of cell configuration/count, but I've not tested them for this.
I much prefer the single 21700 formula of the W30 but you have to hand it to Maxtoch for having the upper hand on performance. I wonder how much of that is due to a voltage advantage in the Maxtoch or is this simply a difference that can be chalked up to the larger optic?
Alex1234
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I would really love to see some lux testing to see what they actually throw vs the factory numbers. Because it seams like they both throw better then the factory numbers
Rasher
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I'm way to lazy to do that - but I am planning on taking the Acebeam W10 & W30, MaxToch XSword, MaxaBeam, Xevision Superpower 85 (hopped-up Lemax Superpower), and the Weltool W3 (if it's back from Vinh) out to a very dark area, lining them up pointing up and each separated by 20 feet or so, and having a buddy that's a photographer with night shoots expertise take an image or ten from his house on a hill several miles away. Should make for an interesting comparison...
OnlyownEnergizer250lumen
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+1 to that. I'd love to see that kind of shot.
Alex1234
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To anyone with a W30 and knows how to remove the aspheric lens I need help. Mine came with a extremely dusty lens to a point where it may actually be affecting preformace. I got the ar lens off but there is a plastic ring holding down the aspheric lens. I need to remove that lens to clean the underside of it where most of the dust is. Brand new light and the light loos like it was assembled in an old dusty house.
Don't mess with LEP optics unless you really know what you're doing.
If you misalign it or undertighten it or near-misalign (so an impact misaligns it) and you or someone near you will be close to a serious injury.
