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oeL

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But I'm not sure if the beam is big enough to be usuable other than giggles or for pinpointing something out and for hunters.

With its 1.8 degrees, the W30 is clearly a long throwing flashlight and not a laser pointer, and it's perfect to illuminate distant objects. A chimney on a roof, a bird in a tree, a rope route in the montain, checking surface integrity on a grounded airplane at night... for use cases like this, the W30 is just perfect. What I like especially: The (almost) complete lack of any spill due to it's aspheric lense. No disturbing and blinding bright near objects like a corn field, when you point it to far objects. The beam is perfectly round, a bright center, and a small corona.

I find the W30 very useful, much more than a toy.

Screenshots not available yet, I might take some soon as I have time.
 

Glenn7

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Some quick and dirty beam shots.

BLF FW3A XPL Hi 5000K on turbo @ 70 meters.
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Olight Warrior X @ 70 meters - very impressive light one of olights best imo, I notice they do them in desert sand and looks nice.
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Jaxman Z1 with SST70 has about 2000 lumen does about 120klux @ 70 meters.
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BLF GT with HXP35 Hi neutral, on turbo at 70 meters.
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Acebeam W30 cool white @ 70 meters.
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BLF GT @ 250 meters.
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Acebeam W30 @ 250 meters.
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BLF GT @ 350 meters, with approx 500mm zoom.
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Acebeam W30 @ 350 meters, with approx 500mm zoom.
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BLF GT @ 550 meters and 500mm zoom.
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Acebeam W30 @ 550 meters and 500mm zoom.
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Managed to get a beam shot @ 550 meters of the Acebeam W30 zoomed in at 3000mm - it was hard as there was so much wind/rain/particals in the air dark and it's out of focus grrr.
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So to me it throws further than the BLF GT (all be it 500lm vs 2400lm) and waaay smaller to boot, hope this helps potential buyers.
 
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Magio

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Awesome beam shots! I just ordered the W30 and those pics make me confident it's worth the money I paid for it
 

Agpp

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I love to see this kind of beamshots without zoom...
Typically I don't use any optical instruments to see far so no zoom reflects what I see much better.

But anyway - nice beamshots. And thank you for sharing. :)
 

JulianP

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I've got my Acebeam W30 a week ago and it's mindblowing. It throws further than my Firefox 3 and my Chinese Maxabeam clone. I'm just waiting for some low clouds so I can put a spot on it - this having been my dream for years.
 
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I've got my Acebeam W30 a week ago and it's mindblowing. It throws further than my Firefox 3 and my Chinese Maxabeam clone. I'm just waiting for some low clouds so I can put a spot on it - this having been my dream for years.

Please continue to update with more feedback regarding your experiences with this beast! And if you get a beamshot photo on those low clouds, please share! That alone might sell another handful or two of these.
Thanks
 

twistedraven

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Really wish they had made one too with the original host-- which was 2x21700 and a larger head.
 

Patriot

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Glenn, thank you for taking those beamshots and posting them! They answered a lot of questions for me!

What color temp is your W30?
 

Glenn7

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Thank you Patriot.
The color is cool white, I debated on getting neutral or hi cri but after talking to the sales guy and had him describe the tints to his eyes I went cool white.
I have warm tints for throwers but side by side I always prefer bright white as warmer tints always look dull to my eye at a long distances, as throwers are for spotting things far away white bounces off more things than warmer tints. As it's focusing a laser onto the phosphor it's still kind of working like an LED through optics and like all zoomies you get a bit of side funckyness in tint but where it matters it's fairly neutral to my eye.
But for most other general lighting I prefer neutral/hi cri.
 
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Patriot

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Thanks Glenn. The excellent pictures caused to beam to appear neutral, which made me think, "if it throws like that in neutral, what's the cool white like?!" In any case, the color is relative when the white balance is locked so thank you again for the great pictures. I would also go for the cool white since that light's main task is to throw. I sure you'll really be enjoying that flashlight.
 
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With 7x throw and 2.5x the output of the W10, I can't imagine that this light wouldn't impress. I'm eager to hear your reaction Vinh.
 

b8llzblue

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I'm eager to hear your opinion as well Vinh. I've been holding back from purchasing one of these. If there's a vn version, I probably wouldn't be able to hold back anymore.
 

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I've got all of the current LEP models (Acebeam W10 & W30, Weltool W3, Maxtoch).

As for practical throw use, they are in order Maxtoch, W30, W10, W3.

The smaller lights are close, as are the two larger lights.

All fun.
 

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Hi Vinh and all,


I have been keeping track of Vinh's mods and of recent flashlight developments, but didn't see anything new in the realm of throw since the CFT-90 LEDs, UNTIL NOW.

I have 3 Vinh BLF-GT's with the CFT-90, and 2 Vinh TN42's with the CFT-90. The 3 BLF-GT's produce around 5000-6000 lumens, and I measured their intensity from 1.5 and 2.1 Mcd (they are using different driver versions).


The LEP technology seems like it could bypass LEDs, including the CFT-90 and Oslon, so just to "test the waters" I ordered a Maxtoch Xsword L2k, through Amazon.

I received it today. It had three intensity settings; 500, 300 and 100 lumens.

At 500 lumens, I get consistent readings of 1.8 Mcd or higher with my Extech LT40 light meter, at 30 feet.

So it can attain the same candela rating as a Vinh-modded BLF-GTvn90, with 1/10th the lumens and a 2 inch head instead of a 5 inch one.


Vinh, I look forward to any modifications you can make to the LEP flashlights!!!!
 
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b8llzblue

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I've got all of the current LEP models (Acebeam W10 & W30, Weltool W3, Maxtoch).

As for practical throw use, they are in order Maxtoch, W30, W10, W3.

The smaller lights are close, as are the two larger lights.

All fun.

Why do you favor the maxtoch over the w30? The w30 is like half the size and throws very similar. Is the beam that much different? I would think it would look almost identical since the head is about the same size.
 

Rasher

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Why do you favor the maxtoch over the w30? The w30 is like half the size and throws very similar. Is the beam that much different? I would think it would look almost identical since the head is about the same size.

Because I do. What more do you want said? It throws further. It has a distinctly yellow tint when wall hunting, but in the wild, it is a nice tint that cuts through the airmass. Measuring mine indicates it is quite under-rated by maxtoch. I know of a couple of other tests that show similar over-performance.

The acebeam is also a nice light - if forced to keep just one, I'd be fine with either.
 
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