MDs Lithium-Ion > Incandescent guide + compatability/comparison chart

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

WOW!!!! WOW!!!! WOW!!!!!!

I wish I would have seen this sooner, would have explained a LOT of things to me!!! WOW!!!!!
THANK YOU!!!!

Please make this a sticky mods!!! I BEG you!!!!
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

it is a sticky... have to click on "threads of interest" first :)

you're very welcome, thank you!
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

I'd like to offer mdocod a belated thank you for his comprehensive work and for his personal reply to a question I had, recently, about the M6.
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

Mdocod, With this huge archive of information, I can't find what battery would fit in a new L4? Thanks and this is a HUGE service to CPF.

-Evan
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

sorry Lightguy27, the chart is limited to popular incandescent tactical lights for the most part.
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

UPDATE 1/1/08 gave this thing some updates. Re-worded a few sections, elaborated on a few issues, tried to eliminate some redundancy, clarified a few things, titled a few more sections for better organization, and included the Surefire "E" series lights in the compatibility chart with LF lamps! I invite yall to have a look!
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

Mdocod Sir,
Thank you for making a great sticky even better. :thumbsup:
Best Regards and Happy New Year to you.
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

Great thread especially with the E-series lights. Any chance of figures for the LF EO-E1R with 1X18650 and the LF EO-E2R with 2X18650 ?
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

that's a good question, I had forgotten than Leef and others have made 18650 bodies for E series lights... who else E series compatible bodies?
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

If bulb pulls 2.4C and the max Discharge rate of the 17670 cells are 1.5C, and you are using 2, does that mean the combined capacity of the 17670s is 3C?

Retract that question, in series the capacity is max discharge of a single battery.
 
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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

awesome info
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

So when do we add Moli IMR-18650 powered configurations to the list :whistle:
 
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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

guys this thread needs to become a sticky or added in the "threads of interest" post.

There are times I want to reference it to friendsm and since I cannot bookmark it, I jave to search many old posts for a link to it.

thanks, Kostas
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

guys this thread needs to become a sticky or added in the "threads of interest" post.
It already IS included in the "threads of interest" sticky.
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

So when do we add Moli IMR-18650 powered configurations to the list

good question, I sure would like to see some discharge graphs of all the new cells we have popping up.. nano-tech, phosphate and manganese based cells with high current capabilities are going to make driving things like MN21s on a pair of little cells much more safe... If we can just get some decent phosphate based cells in RCR123 size we can start pushing P91s in 2xCR123 size lights and take back some lost ground from the world of LEDs.
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

It already IS included in the "threads of interest" sticky.

indeed it is now, but wasn't a blocked CPFWiki chart in its palce till yesterday I checked?
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

it's been in the sticky list since about 5/07, shortly after I started the project.
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

Great info!

Looking through it, I may have made a poor combination for a Mag 2C mod. I put one together using a pair of AW protected 18500's, pushing one of Kai's KD773U bi-pin bulbs. I don't want to pop the batteries, so what should I expect for reasonable run time between charges, or is it even realistic to run those batteries that hard?
 

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Re: MDs Lithium-Ion>Incandecent guide, +compatability/comparison chart

you should be fine. That's "pushing it" but within reason IMO. Use it in short increments to keep the cells healthy.

That bulb is supposedly 2.8A at 8.3V, realistically speaking, with the resistance of the maglight and the voltage sag of the cells you will never get more than about 7.0-7.2V to that bulb at about 2.5-2.6A, The theoretical maximum safe discharge rate for the 18500s is somewhere around 2.5-3A depending on the cell and other factors. AW sells his 18500s with the expressed intent that they could be used to drive an 1185 bulb, which draws around 3A, so you are fine IMO. Runtime should be around 20-30 minutes.
 
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