raggie33
*the raggedier*
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I was born in the 70s and I say the worst cars are from then. I recall some of the 70s car with a 350 v8 and only making like 140 hp lol aand getting 14 mpg if that
I was born in the 70s and I say the worst cars are from then. I recall some of the 70s car with a 350 v8 and only making like 140 hp lol aand getting 14 mpg if that
Real sustainability is no economic goal.
Right after the 70's oil embargo, up until the late 1980's for American built cars. Corporate Detroit was caught flat footed, and had to scramble to catch up to the Japanese manufacturers in quality, fuel economy, and longevity. There was much denial, and it truly took that long for Detroit to "get it" in regards to passenger cars. Some good designs, a lot of bad designs, and many voted with their wallets after being burned with "Buy American"...
Right after the 70's oil embargo, up until the late 1980's for American built cars. Corporate Detroit was caught flat footed, and had to scramble to catch up to the Japanese manufacturers in quality, fuel economy, and longevity. There was much denial, and it truly took that long for Detroit to "get it" in regards to passenger cars. Some good designs, a lot of bad designs, and many voted with their wallets after being burned with "Buy American"...
In respect of European cars late 70s and early 80s have been worst in my experience. Everything was rusting like hell, until Audi showed up with the first full zinc-plated chassis. FIAT und Alfa have been worst in a matter of rust, called to be the only cars that already rust in the brochures, French cars were notorious for hydraulic and engine problems and German cars combined all issues together.
Opel (GM) suffered beside that massively from quality issues caused by the "strangler from Rüsselsheim" in late 80s, same did VW later in early 90s.
Opel's image has even still not fully recovered from that period, Mercedes still suffers from massive corrosion issues, BMW had massive trouble with their N47-family engines... but that's all a child's birthday compared to those clunkers they produced 40 to 30 years ago in my opinion.
In respect of European cars late 70s and early 80s have been worst in my experience. Everything was rusting like hell, until Audi showed up with the first full zinc-plated chassis. FIAT und Alfa have been worst in a matter of rust, called to be the only cars that already rust in the brochures, French cars were notorious for hydraulic and engine problems and German cars combined all issues together.
Opel (GM) suffered beside that massively from quality issues caused by the "strangler from Rüsselsheim" in late 80s, same did VW later in early 90s.
Opel's image has even still not fully recovered from that period, Mercedes still suffers from massive corrosion issues, BMW had massive trouble with their N47-family engines... but that's all a child's birthday compared to those clunkers they produced 40 to 30 years ago in my opinion.