The Malkoff Front Porch

[md17]

I just ordered the e2xtl with 18650 body and the mdx adapter. Pretty excited about this light as I really wanted an e2xtl for years but needed a low mode. I second the thank you GENE!

Now time to try to thin out the collection!

 

[teak]

Yes. I also got the email and ordered right away. I’ve been patiently waiting on this for many years! Thanks Gene!

 

[JP031716]

Kosen update! Really looking forward to a M31WLL for my VME! Also, looks like a restock of AA MDC and V3 as well!

 

[Schokokeks]

Oh, Kosen...you beautiful [child of unwed parents], TAKE MY MONEY!

Not only did I grab one of those sapphires, but M31WLL in 2700K AND an MDC AA in 2700K?!?!?

Oh, it's going to be an expensive summer, gents.


I'm still on the fence about the V3 stuff, but I DID see Gene now has that in the XP-L 16650 light...which I don't have, and I LOVE his XP-L tints, so....MAYBE I'll try one out in the future.

 

[md17]

I got the e2xtl v3 ezp coming today with the adapter. I’m more excited for this light than any other.

 

[md17]

Has anyone used a tempered glass lens for the E2XTL and know where to find one? I know the cons of using glass over the acrylic, but I still prefer the glass.

 

[md17]

The E2XTL V3 ezp is truly spectacular. It’s my first 18650 MDC light and much smaller than I anticipated.

The 7 different programs have enough options to keep almost anyone happy.

I added a glow ring to the bezel, my typical o ring attached with a constrictor knot as a finger ring, a medium press boot and a lanyard. It’s an EDC pocket thrower dream come true. Buy one!

I am going to cut out some DC Fix and try to make a quick removable diffuser of some sort. If anyone has ideas please share.

 

[Schokokeks]

While I wait, I may order an M61NLL in a VME with MDC 18650 body to tide me over. I already have an MDC 1CR123, so that should keep me busy swapping components for a bit. Have you any recommendations as to good quality 18650 LiFePO4 cells? I wouldn't be buying until I have secured an M31L but that could be cool in an MDX2 with a high/low bezel switch.

Following up on this, MUCH LATER.

Soshine started selling their 2000 mAh button top LFP cells on their Ali store. I'd also gotten some of the 1800 mAh 18650 LFP cells.

The 2000 mAh are also protected, so they have the length you'd expect. I swear, though, the wrapper is actually paper, haha. Not in, "Oh, wow, it's so cheap it might as well be paper," but in the sense of, I am almost certain this is literally a paper wrapper. Kind of interesting, and I guess so long as the cell doesn't get wet, this works just fine. The "button" on the top is almost flush with the cell, so it still won't work with a stock Sportac drop-in (I had to slip a button top spacer onto the drop-in).

The blue, flat top 18650 cells use the typical heat shrinked wrapper.

 

[lampeDépêche]

I'm trying to figure out the difference between Malkoff and Kosen -- can you point me to earlier explanations, or answer a few quick questions?
I found the Kosen website and signed up for emails, so that helped me understand some things.
It looks to me as though Kosen is a kind of reseller who uses bodies and optics from Malkoff (and McGizmo) and puts in new emitters and sometimes glow rings. Does Kosen also offer new light engines or UIs?

If I am content with the emitter in Malkoff's stock MDC 1AA, is there any reason to look at Kosen's offerings, and not buy directly from Malkoff?

 

[md17]

I'm trying to figure out the difference between Malkoff and Kosen -- can you point me to earlier explanations, or answer a few quick questions?
I found the Kosen website and signed up for emails, so that helped me understand some things.
It looks to me as though Kosen is a kind of reseller who uses bodies and optics from Malkoff (and McGizmo) and puts in new emitters and sometimes glow rings. Does Kosen also offer new light engines or UIs?

If I am content with the emitter in Malkoff's stock MDC 1AA, is there any reason to look at Kosen's offerings, and not buy directly from Malkoff?

Anyone who knows better, correct me if I am wrong, but Kosen did alot of people a favor and did tons of leg work and began offering Malkoff collaborations that had special emitters, mode spacings and voltage specifications based on feedback from flashlight enthusiasts (nerds….which is not the same as geeks btw)

It’s still a Malkoff light, backed by the same warranty and has the same quality as Malkoff, but if you like a specific configurations of the Kosen offering versus Malkoff, that’s when you’d buy from Kosen.

The glow rings would still work on a light bought directly from Malkoff.

 

[Romanko]

MDC AA has PWM ?

 

[lampeDépêche]

MDC AA has PWM ?

Reading around a bit, it looks like this is the case. That's a shame.

 

[Romanko]

Reading around a bit, it looks like this is the case. That's a shame.

Thanks. I had a hope that there is no PWM.

 

[lampeDépêche]

Thanks. I had a hope that there is no PWM.

Well, don't take my word for it -- I don't own any Malkoffs, and lots of people on this thread know a lot more than I do.
But, yes, I have seen a few references saying this. Maybe they have changed since then?

What is more important to you, AA compatibility, LiIon compatibility, or dual chemistry AA and 14500, with or without PWM?

I thought the Skyray King has 200Hz PWM on low. I can’t see anything… Should I feel lucky or should I feel old?

budgetlightforum.com

 

[Schokokeks]

I'm trying to figure out the difference between Malkoff and Kosen -- can you point me to earlier explanations, or answer a few quick questions?
I found the Kosen website and signed up for emails, so that helped me understand some things.
It looks to me as though Kosen is a kind of reseller who uses bodies and optics from Malkoff (and McGizmo) and puts in new emitters and sometimes glow rings. Does Kosen also offer new light engines or UIs?

If I am content with the emitter in Malkoff's stock MDC 1AA, is there any reason to look at Kosen's offerings, and not buy directly from Malkoff?

Kosen works directly with Gene and Don to manufacture small batches of products with specialty emitters neither Don nor Gene would normally offer.

Anyone who knows better, correct me if I am wrong, but Kosen did alot of people a favor and did tons of leg work and began offering Malkoff collaborations that had special emitters, mode spacings and voltage specifications based on feedback from flashlight enthusiasts (nerds….which is not the same as geeks btw)

It’s still a Malkoff light, backed by the same warranty and has the same quality as Malkoff, but if you like a specific configurations of the Kosen offering versus Malkoff, that’s when you’d buy from Kosen.

The glow rings would still work on a light bought directly from Malkoff.

Yeah, Kosen is essentially running group buys for flashlight nerds across the internet.

Instead of trying to coordinate all that across half a dozen places online, he runs a "storefront" on his website.

But, essentially, he's buying all the products for each group buy, then listing them on his site so we can all buy them.

MDC AA has PWM ?

Technically, yes.

Reading around a bit, it looks like this is the case. That's a shame.

The PWN is at 310 Hz...

This reminds me of, in audiophile circles, how guys INSIST they can hear a difference between copper and gold wires...

I think, for a lot of people, they know there IS PWN, so they start to psychosomatically manifest PWM artifacts.

I'm very skeptical that 310hz is within the range of human perception. 60 Hz? Oh yeah, we could see that. MAYBE 120 Hz, I could buy that...but 310 Hz is beyond the limits of established human perception - whose maximal range is about 200 Hz in actual studies.

"I don't care, bro. I can totally hear the difference in these gold wires!"
"I can sense the presence of my dead grandma!"

At a certain point, there's no point in arguing with people who FEEL that they have extra-sensory perception. They're convinced it's true, and despite Science's best efforts to document these abilities, they're convinced they're the rare exceptions - truly, unicorns.

 

[RWT1405]

Technically, yes.

The PWN is at 310 Hz...

This reminds me of, in audiophile circles, how guys INSIST they can hear a difference between copper and gold wires...

I think, for a lot of people, they know there IS PWN, so they start to psychosomatically manifest PWM artifacts.

I'm very skeptical that 310hz is within the range of human perception. 60 Hz? Oh yeah, we could see that. MAYBE 120 Hz, I could buy that...but 310 Hz is beyond the limits of established human perception - whose maximal range is about 200 Hz in actual studies.

"I don't care, bro. I can totally hear the difference in these gold wires!"
"I can sense the presence of my dead grandma!"

At a certain point, there's no point in arguing with people who FEEL that they have extra-sensory perception. They're convinced it's true, and despite Science's best efforts to document these abilities, they're convinced they're the rare exceptions - truly, unicorns.

I put those folks in the "white wall hunter" category

Sure, I can possibly "create" a situation that "might" allow me to see PWN, such as shining the light into a fan, etc.

HOWEVER,

If you need to "create" a situation that allows you to see PWN, I call B.S., just like the "white wall hunters"

I have seen some flashlights that the PWN was truly awful and could be seen without using "tricks" to create it, and yes, I say call those out and let them be known through-out the world for PWN!

However, if you need to shine a flashlight into a fan, etc. to FINALLY be able to see PWN, I call B.S., just like the "white wall hunters".

As always, I don't use my lights to "play" with, so perhaps I see things differently than others

 

[Schokokeks]

I put those folks in the "white wall hunter" category

Sure, I can possibly "create" a situation that "might" allow me to see PWN, such as shining the light into a fan, etc.

HOWEVER,

If you need to "create" a situation that allows you to see PWN, I call B.S., just like the "white wall hunters"

I have seen some flashlights that the PWN was truly awful and could be seen without using "tricks" to create it, and yes, I say call those out and let them be known through-out the world for PWN!

However, if you need to shine a flashlight into a fan, etc. to FINALLY be able to see PWN, I call B.S., just like the "white wall hunters".

As always, I don't use my lights to "play" with, so perhaps I see things differently than others

I can't agree more.

I always laugh at the people who say, "I can totally see the PWN when I shine it at a fan!"

"Doctor, it hurts when I do this!"
"Then don't do that!"

Unless you're maybe in HVAC, I can't fathom how "I can see PWM when I look at a fan" is a real concern for the 99.9% of other uses for the light.

And I'd agree, a really low Hz PWM is gross and obnoxious, but when it's a good 50% higher than known human perception range?

 

[dc38]

I can't agree more.

I always laugh at the people who say, "I can totally see the PWN when I shine it at a fan!"

"Doctor, it hurts when I do this!"
"Then don't do that!"

Unless you're maybe in HVAC, I can't fathom how "I can see PWM when I look at a fan" is a real concern for the 99.9% of other uses for the light.

And I'd agree, a really low Hz PWM is gross and obnoxious, but when it's a good 50% higher than known human perception range?

Let's put it this way, I noticed that the KR1AA had PWM on the lower modes *(when white wall hunting), was assured by someone that there was none and that I was delusional, then a few weeks later that she shamelessly said that the PWM was in the high thousands...

PWM and PDM can cause a nauseating shimmering effect on lower modes, even in the high thousands...

 

[md17]

It’s big, it’s heavy, it’s bright

 

[Schokokeks]

Let's put it this way, I noticed that the KR1AA had PWM on the lower modes *(when white wall hunting), was assured by someone that there was none and that I was delusional, then a few weeks later that she shamelessly said that the PWM was in the high thousands...

PWM and PDM can cause a nauseating shimmering effect on lower modes, even in the high thousands...

I get it. I know this will probably read as a snarky comment, but I really don't mean it that way.

"The gold never oxidizes, so it carries those electrons just that much better to the speakers, which really effects the entire experience in the concrete bunker."

(I kid - I tease, but all in good nature)

Like I said, I'm not going to bother arguing with people who are convinced they have extra-sensory perception.
Feel free to reach out to one of the academics who researches these topics, and lend yourself to their testing. And, I mean that.
If you're convinced you possess such capabilities, nothing I say, and no amount of data will change your mind. I accept this. I also accept that actual testing in scientific conditions shows a fairly consistent, hard limit on human visual perception, which is a result of very real physical factors. I'm open to you contacting researches and expanding our understanding, though. If I'm wrong, I will adjust my understanding and move forward.

Until I see some scientifically validated data on perceptive capability, I'm going to accept that the human eye and brain have a fairly hard limit somewhere around 200 Hz. I'm not going to tell you that you're not a singular phenom, capable of breaking out of the confines of corporeal world, though. Again, I'm legitimately open to that possibility. Yes, I'm skeptical, but I find that being wrong is often fascinating.

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It’s big, it’s heavy, it’s bright

That green looks absolutely fantastic. Did you Cerakote that yourself, or get it done?

The things I'd do for a green Malkoff, hahah.

And, oddly, the brass ring looks aesthetically fantastic with the green, too.