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bykfixer said:
HoF our constitution inverted powers for the reasons you cite.

Never blindly trust your government.

My governor created a stay at home order that allows folks to leave home to go to court but closed courts due to the more than 10 people in one location rule.
Citizen pulled over: "well officer I'm out of my house heading to court"
Officer: "court is closed, go back home"
Citizen: "can I go to the liquor store?"
Officer: yup, because that is an essential".
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This will be a conversation for later once the courts open back up. Someone is bound to ask a judge why booze and pot are essential and the gun shops and courts are not. However, to avoid going down that rabbit hole and getting this thread closed, let's leave it at that and save that conversation for the Underground.
 
Hooked on Fenix said:
This will be a conversation for later once the courts open back up. Someone is bound to ask a judge why booze and pot are essential and the gun shops and courts are not. However, to avoid going down that rabbit hole and getting this thread closed, let's leave it at that and save that conversation for the Underground.
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Personally don't care but the formers could be delivered where the latter two cannot, maybe that's the difference, idk.
 
Are certain states really prohibiting you from driving around? I think there is some confusion from the actual wording "stay at home". Sure, if you STAY there 100% you're fine. But Walking your dog around the block is certainly fine. But how about 1/4 mile away? 1/2 mile? Getting in your car to walk him at the park 8mi away?

Over here in Michigan and Indiana locking yourself inside doesn't seem to be the case. In fact, the county and state is encouraging going for a hike in the woods, ride bikes, whatever. All while keeping distance and not gathering at places like pavilions, restrooms and campgrounds of course (which have been officially closed). I even got an email from the DNR talking about going fishing and make sure you have your 2020 license. Yet some people here take the "stay at home" literally...like, running and looking out for the schutzstaffel while going to the mailbox because the don't have papers.
 
What most states are after markr is folks not hang out in public places in crowds. Especially indoors where viruses tend to survive better than outdoors. Climate control systems are great inventions for us humans but viruses dig it too.

Are some states actually enacting marshall law? I haven't heard of any. But what we are seeing is law officers being dispatched to crowds. Meanwhile the vast majority are just trying to do what was reccomended by the cdc a few weeks ago in order to flatten the curve.
 
Police have been using drones in the UK, to disperse/keep an eye on! They have been told off to, for going too far with the use.

My 1st day back tomorrow after 2 weeks off, looking forward to the quiet roads/motorway.

Little monty ........Always look on the bright side of life......
 
LA County Sheriff Alex Villanueva this morning reopened local gun shops ~ Source CNN!

Regardless of our Gubbeners order, gun shops never closed up in my County :nana:
 
I’ve already posted above the silliness that is the stay-at-home orders from both V and MD. Folks really need to read those actual executive orders.

But this:

bykfixer said:
Citizen pulled over: "well officer I'm out of my house heading to court"
Officer: "court is closed, go back home"
Citizen: "can I go to the liquor store?"
Officer: yup, because that is an essential".
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I’m sure you just randomly picked the ABC example as something tongue in cheek, but the ABC store being open really is essential. Alcohol withdrawal for a true alcoholic is a potential disaster waiting to happen. Plenty of folks have ended up hospitalized or even died trying to stop their addiction themselves.

Again, I go back to my call for people to logically decide what is “essential” and what is not because the governor’s of those two states did the most basic of deciding...
 
I originally posted this over in the music thread, but it might be more helpful here; a prolific recording artist who is locked down has started a "Quarantine Project" to provide relief for those similarly stuck at home - I'd strongly recommend reviewing this video before posting here:

 
I was doing tongue and cheek wac. Glad you caught that.

I read the Ralphs decree in vuh-jin-yuh. Not much change really, just enforeceable now. Closing the beaches could have been done by the localities, but as the constitution dictates, the state stepped in and did it, perhaps because localities couldn't handle it?

Too funny Gary.

Congratz Ven. Gotta pay for all those tools, watches and those storm trooper trainers.
 
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I’m in Ohio. The governor ordered a stay at home unless an essential service, with many caveats. I have read through it and it’s very vague.
I still see landscapers out fertilizing residential lawns and cleaning up leaves.
Myself, I am a contractor, I have been primarily installing custom closets for one particular company. I am staying at home. The company I contract to is still pushing for us to install.
They are saying that the way the guidelines are written, we can still go out (even though at times we can be in two or three homes per day).
The State is relying on people exercising common sense which there is about as much of a shortage of as PPE.

Can and Should are very different...
 
StarHalo said:
As it says in the post, it's merely two different approaches, both are required to find solutions to problems; BB made the executive decision to declare me inferior for not being his kind, I categorized that as a personal attack, Nbp handled it. My intent is to continue posting facts and information as I have from the start, but I'm finding other people are reacting very poorly to the situation.
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Emphasis mine.

Facts and information are always welcome as long as they are accurate with valid reference. How other people are reacting is on them.. not you. And it is most definitely not up to you to get into a cat-pissing fight trying to establish superiority. As a matter of fact it's not up to ANYONE to go there.

There is so much information out there right now and it changes almost hourly. Let's all try to remember that and try not to be part of the problem of spreading misinformation and most of all panic. People are scared... as they should be! But it doesn't have to be to the point where we are afraid to continue living. Believe it or not, life does go on. It's just a little bit different right now. And we adjust. If others want to be stupid... Darwinism. Don't be part of it. Just be calm... and be smart. It's really not that hard.

AND... be kind. This isn't a contest to establish superiority over anyone. This forum is not for anyone to declare "HA! I'm right, you're wrong!" Get over it. Take it somewhere else. We are all here to support each other and help each other. Let's do that... and leave the egos at the door please.

Stay well my friends... and be safe and smart... :grouphug:
 
jabe1 said:
I’m in Ohio. The governor ordered a stay at home unless an essential service, with many caveats. I have read through it and it’s very vague.
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That's likely the problem. I guess they can't really spell it out word for word and list every business. I had an appraiser come to my house today...was he covered in germs? He touched light switches and door knobs. May not be "essential" but...sort of in my mind.

Bottom line is, you can go out and follow the guidelines. Until things get really crazy...you'll know what that happens!

That landscaping crew is a good example. Just because they're not on an "essential" list doesn't mean they have to shut down and twiddle their thumbs at home. They're outside, probably not dealing with the public, and hopefully following the guidelines.
 
All, make sure your taking your vitamins and exercising and when possible getting some sun outside or taking vitamin d supplements.

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