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markr6 said:
That's likely the problem. I guess they can't really spell it out word for word and list every business. I had an appraiser come to my house today...was he covered in germs? He touched light switches and door knobs. May not be "essential" but...sort of in my mind.

Bottom line is, you can go out and follow the guidelines. Until things get really crazy...you'll know what that happens!

That landscaping crew is a good example. Just because they're not on an "essential" list doesn't mean they have to shut down and twiddle their thumbs at home. They're outside, probably not dealing with the public, and hopefully following the guidelines.
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The problem with the landscapers is that there are two or three of them in a truck cab. Then they go about their other business after work. If one gets sick at the store or wherever, the others get it and spread it to their respective families and it continues.
There are also varying opinions out there as to how long this can hang in the air, or whether it can move just on moisture in your breath, even when not coughing or sneezing.
In the south Asian nations, they wear face masks out of caution not just for themselves, but for the safety of others also.
 
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Chauncey Gardiner said:
So, to mask or not to mask? I've read conflicting opinions. Any thoughts?
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It will help keep you safe because you won’t be breathing in others large respiratory droplets and it also helps keep you from touching your face. Only downfall is they lose integrity once they get wet. I have a cloth mask that I can insert my own cotton filters into. I can send a picture if any of you want to make your own.
 
Well CG, you can always do the cowboy bank robber thing. A fellow who I see everyday was wearing a bandana on his face. He joked he was going to the bank to make a withdrawl but had forgotten his 6 shooter. I laughed and said "dude, you can rob a bank with a booger right now".

I'd like to steer the conversation to a thank you direction. Hopefully others will join in.
- To start, thanks Greta and the staff for keeping this place going and allowing this lively discussion to proceed.
- Thanks to delivery people. Truckers, mail carriers, the Amazon driver, the people keeping packages moving right now.
- Thanks food suppliers, whether restaraunt workers, grocery clerks, pizza deliveries, farmers, the people making sure we still have food to eat.
- Thanks to first responders. Police, ems, fire, dispatchers, security, the people keeping us safe.
- Thanks to folks in the medical proffesion. Drug stores, hospitals, doctors offices, the folks putting themselves out front right now.
- Thanks to scientists trying to solve this one while also coming up with solutions for the next one.
- Thanks to geeks for keeping the internet running, for fixing broken stuff, for solving issues.
- Thanks to pet industry folks for keeping our friends taken care of.
- Thanks to makes those delicious cakes I keep eating, my dentist thanks you as well mam.
- Thanks to the banking industry for helping with cash flow right now.

I'm sure I left out a lot of heroes so please, others take it from here.
 
Chauncey Gardiner said:
So, to mask or not to mask? I've read conflicting opinions. Any thoughts?
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If I had a mask, I'd give it to an older person; I don't know that all these masks on younger folk are a good look..

In other news, now there's a magnitude 6.5 earthquake in Idaho:
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- Thanks to the folks working extra hard in food processing plants since suddenly vegan food doesn't seem as popular as cow, bird or pig right now.
- Thanks to the garbage collectors and sanitation workers.
- Thanks to the factory workers.
- Thanks to whomever broke the bosses computer, thus preventing more dynamic approaches to avoid being sued by employees who end up getting sick. Three days in a row with no new policies. Yay!!
- Thanks to the citizens of the planet doing their part to flatten the curve.
- Thanks to the army corp of engineers, national guard units and soldiers serving their country.……
 
Week and-a-half into my own personal WFH lockdown. The WFH setup is reasonably satisfactory with a 42" 4K monitor that can divide into 2 or 4 logical displays - I can largely replicate my 3-monitor setup at work with this. Finally got all my UPSs working so I can weather power outages of ~20 minutes without stopping; if I try to revive one of the larger units I could push that to an hour easily. My employer's VPN resources have so far proven to be up to the challenge - moving ~50 Mb/s to/from servers in data centers hasn't been an issue. I do find myself losing track of time now that I rarely leave my neighborhood; average daily miles driven has dropped from ~60 to <6 and I find myself leaving the neighborhood perhaps every third day.

Nonessential businesses are taking a beating in the DFW area. I do wonder if my favorite Thai restaurant will survive - last time I ordered a to-go meal they indicated that I was their 5th customer of the day and it was almost 6 o'clock. Home Depot - normally doing brisk business on a weekend - was exceptionally vacant on a Sunday afternoon, closing at 6. I've seen a bit more of my neighbors lately. Social distancing is a thing that I'm seeing in the DFW metro with reasonable consistency although city of Dallas has apparently started to shut parks due to lack thereof. Shelter-in-place orders do look to be running through the duration of April, however, and school campuses are closed until early May.

Hang in there folks - it looks like this is going to run through a chunk of the second quarter.
 
My reading of the virus facts to date is that simply good nutrition trumps supplements, which have no proven benefit.
 
Masks are a tough one CG, many conflicting reports. Here in the UK medical specialists pretty much said its the ones infected who should be wearing them. Once moist which can be 30 mins of wearing, they are not effective and the virus can get through the mask. Also when wearing a mask, your more likely to touch face(by fidgeting, move, adjust it)than you would without it on.
It can also give some a false sense of safety, which may lead them to taking more risk(getting closer to others etc)

If you do decide, change regular and dont keep on for long periods, wash hands prior to removing or use antibac cleaner if out and about.

I am no doctor of course, so take my answer with a pinch of salt. The info has been gathered by health specialists on BBC/SKY .As with anything, this can change as time goes on.

Right now, the best protection is staying in. Followed by keeping distance and travelling only when needed. Washing hands before and after pretty much anything!

Stay safe, off to work myself soon. There are quite a few measures in place/changes since 2 weeks back.
 
wweiss said:
My reading of the virus facts to date is that simply good nutrition trumps supplements, which have no proven benefit.
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If your eating a healthy diet, you get the supplements you need. If you dont, supplements will be your best bet.

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I'll throw in my two cents re: masks and gloves. I've read a few different studies saying the average person touches their face between 10 and 20 times per hour. I find gloves are a tangible reminder not to do this. I'll put them on when I leave the house, and take them off to wash when I get home. Masks I find even in these times all but stop people in their tracks if they come around a corner in the grocery store and see you wearing one. The number of people here who are not practicing social distancing bothers me as it's so easy to do. Wearing a mask and gloves at least gives others pause...
 
True, society is not yet ready to see the reality of protection that is going to be needed on a daily basis. Many in my area are wearing masks so it's good that it's becoming the norm to see people with protection on.


I've read stories of people stopping individuals wearing masks being asked that to take it off as it looks weird hah, I'd tell them to worry about their own damn health if I got stopped by someone.

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I have had a mask on all day from 5:30am, it’s now nearly 2pm. I can categorically tell you.........it ain’t fun! More of a runny nose from the heat (don’t have one without mask). Constant moving and adjusting through the day. IMHO all counter productive , but It’s works rules . So going with the flow, one day at a time.

Stay safe all
 
Whenever I enter an establishment (maybe a couple times a week) I'll wear a mask and nitrile gloves. The mask keeps me from touching my nose or mouth, and my glasses cover my eyes. The gloves can be removed and if removed correctly you fingers will be germ free - but a hand wash is in order when I get home.
 
I think most of the 'expert' opinions on facemasks are BS. Only logical reasons I can come up as to why so many keep downplaying the value of facemasks are (a) prevent panic buying because stocks are needed for medical community or (b) ..... I give up, I can't think of another good reason. :shrug:

I spent most of yesterday deciphering and tweaking this template, created by a UofMinn alum in collaboration with some MDs. In the end, it came out pretty good. I don't have too many N95s, so this is supplemental.

Lack of N95s was the main blindspot in my preparations. I was too focused on power and light.
 
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