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Here is my explanation. If it is correct I do not know. K&T are located somewhere in the EU. Therefore they must pay import tax, which is ~25% of the item value. Also they must pay 75$ for shipping.
At the end K&T will also have a financial gain at the end if they are selling a HDS. The exchange between USD and EUR is also different from the times the lase prices were calculated at K&T.
Years ago the rate was 1.25USD for 1€. Today we are more near at 1:1

The only point I do not know if K&T pays the same end customer price we all pay, or if there is a price table for reseller. My guess is there is only one price for all....
K&T is a 10min drive for me, so know where they're located. And yes, companies do have (slight)different rates then citizens.
 
I had my buddy smooth and polish my SS HDS clip

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I forgot, in version 2.17 (325 lm XP-L HD) the "True Momentary" option was declared? There is no dual flash in the options menu, but for 6 clicks from off it turns on. However, the interest is purely theoretical, since everything works and it suits me
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Phenomenal beam and tint. Absolutely no green and it's just simply amazing. My favorite led
Thank you! I checked with a photo editor and it looks like the current reflectors work great with the 219b. Older ones sometimes gave out a small spot of a darker shade in the center of the hotspot, which drove me and a couple of friends crazy (we're white wall hunters so don't mind us)
 
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Alright, I’m quite tempted to grab an HDS and see what I think of it.

question is, which one should i go with?

there are so many options I don’t know where to start.

rotary or not?
which body type
which led

give me suggestions for the “best” possible build.
thanks.
 
rotary or not?
rotary is the version that is sold most of. Hogo mentioned it is ~9 rotaries 1 Clicky ratio....

which body type
Long time ago I made a review of the regular Body types of the Rotary (CR123, 18650, 2xAA) in a german forum. Important the measurement is metric!

[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/geV9onc.jpg[/bimg]
[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/fG0f853.jpg[/bimg]

And a size compare with the Surefire Outdoorsman lights (2xAA, 2xCR123, 1xCR123)

[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/rxXImfY.jpg[/bimg]

which led
That is the most difficult question since there are mostly some preferences, like warm color, or a cooler color, ....

A lot people will say NB45, and I agree with them, NB45 is great. But I personally prefer the NB40 a bit more. But that does not mean NB45 is bad!

Only to give you a feeling about the colors here an old picture of a compare of HDS LED options taken in mid 2018:

[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/UUvg6hU.jpg[/bimg]
The Nichia 219C and the currently offered 219B are somehow comparable. The 219B is mostly a bit more rosy due to the fact the white light has more red.

Here is a compare of NB30, NB35, NB40 and NB45 I took in September 2022 on request.

[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/XiU7SlN.jpg[/bimg]

Also in this thread are some smaller light color compares of other members of the current LED options, but for this you must search for it on your own.
 
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rotary is the version that is sold most of. Hogo mentioned it is ~9 rotaries 1 Clicky ratio....


Long time ago I made a review of the regular Body types of the Rotary (CR123, 18650, 2xAA) in a german forum. Important the measurement is metric!

[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/geV9onc.jpg[/bimg]
[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/fG0f853.jpg[/bimg]

And a size compare with the Surefire Outdoorsman lights (2xAA, 2xCR123, 1xCR123)

[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/rxXImfY.jpg[/bimg]


That is the most difficult question since there are mostly some preferences, like warm color, or a cooler color, ....

A lot people will say NB45, and I agree with them, NB45 is great. But I personally prefer the NB40 a bit more. But that does not mean NB45 is bad!

Only to give you a feeling about the colors here an old picture of a compare of HDS LED options taken in mid 2018:

[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/UUvg6hU.jpg[/bimg]
The Nichia 219C and the currently offered 219B are somehow comparable. The 219B is mostly a bit more rosy due to the fact the white light has more red.

Here is a compare of NB30, NB35, NB40 and NB45 I took in September 2022 on request.

[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/XiU7SlN.jpg[/bimg]

Also in this thread are some smaller light color compares of other members of the current LED options, but for this you must search for it on your own.
Looking at the comparison image, I want 2700k for the next HDS. For the first HDS, I chose 4500k for practicality. The white color is accurately reflected in white, and the fingertips and palms are properly represented in a reddish color, so it is very easy to use and I am very satisfied with the result. Next time I want to play with warm colors like light bulbs. Or dare Amber? It's fun to have time to get lost in various things.
 
Looking at the comparison image, I want 2700k for the next HDS. For the first HDS, I chose 4500k for practicality...
Here I posted a compare between NB27 and NC27:


You can see very easyly that NB27 is more 'rosy' than NC27. NB27 is 219B 9080 ... NC27 is 219C 9050!

I like 2700K (both NB27 and NC27). I was also the user that had the idea for NB27. :D
 
Alright, I’m quite tempted to grab an HDS and see what I think of it.

question is, which one should i go with?

there are so many options I don’t know where to start.

which body type

I prefer the 18650 size. Even though it is a little larger than CR123, I find it is just as easy/comfortable in my pocket (typically front right pocket in blue jeans). With a 3500 mAh battery, this provides very long runtimes (perhaps twice as long?) as the CR123.
 
I prefer the 18650 size. Even though it is a little larger than CR123, I find it is just as easy/comfortable in my pocket (typically front right pocket in blue jeans). With a 3500 mAh battery, this provides very long runtimes (perhaps twice as long?) as the CR123.
I’ve heard it’s 3x the runtime.

Thanks for the input. Though I might go with the smaller form factor of the 123 so in summer I can still carry it without any issues in shorts, can always throw an extra battery in my bag or on my keys in a lil tube. not sure yet we’ll see.
 
rotary is the version that is sold most of. Hogo mentioned it is ~9 rotaries 1 Clicky ratio....


Long time ago I made a review of the regular Body types of the Rotary (CR123, 18650, 2xAA) in a german forum. Important the measurement is metric!

[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/geV9onc.jpg[/bimg]
[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/fG0f853.jpg[/bimg]

And a size compare with the Surefire Outdoorsman lights (2xAA, 2xCR123, 1xCR123)

[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/rxXImfY.jpg[/bimg]


That is the most difficult question since there are mostly some preferences, like warm color, or a cooler color, ....

A lot people will say NB45, and I agree with them, NB45 is great. But I personally prefer the NB40 a bit more. But that does not mean NB45 is bad!

Only to give you a feeling about the colors here an old picture of a compare of HDS LED options taken in mid 2018:

[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/UUvg6hU.jpg[/bimg]
The Nichia 219C and the currently offered 219B are somehow comparable. The 219B is mostly a bit more rosy due to the fact the white light has more red.

Here is a compare of NB30, NB35, NB40 and NB45 I took in September 2022 on request.

[bimg width=600]https://i.imgur.com/XiU7SlN.jpg[/bimg]

Also in this thread are some smaller light color compares of other members of the current LED options, but for this you must search for it on your own.
Thanks, the NB45 seems to be the sweet spot for the color of light I like.
I appreciate the response, very helpful.
For edc the 123 size seems like the only viable option. The others are quite big especially for summers in shorts.
 

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