Yea, honda is not what it used to be, I still lease hondas, but i liked older versions of some models better, I had 3 accords, the best one was 2006, I also had 09, and 2012, 09 felt more like buick than a honda as far as ride. 2012 was no different, but internal panels were made of thinner, crappier plastic.
In my 2006 I could easily put most of my weight on an elbow rested on door panel, with 2012, the panel would make creaking noises, and i felt how it deformed under the weight, it also moved in and out with the windows going up and down. all of this would not be that important, if it still had ride quality of 2006 accord, but no, it is no longer like that, i even test drove their sport model 2025, still not as tight as older suspension. Their pilot however is better now then previous generation, but new odyssey comes with issues, very common leaks in the rear quarter, people open tailgates and entire rear "tub" where rear seats fold is flooded, body garps are not sealed properly from the factory. Also their interior designers forgot they are designing a family van. Newer designs are not as comfortable, nor practical. that pass thru from front row to second row is gone from most vans on the market, not just honda, unfortunately. interior panel of odyssey are thin as well, and very easily broken by kids, vents especially, older model were better designed, by people who designed a vehicle for a purpose, not like today, stick every new gadget and feature we can to upsell the car.