Modern. 380 rounds vs 9mm

[xxo]

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To completely diffuse the debate

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are ppu hollow points good ammo?

I have never use PPU hp's but I have shot some of their FMJ range ammo.

For 9 mm I usually carry 124 grain +P HST.

 

[xxo]

Each time I carry I pray that I will never have to use it - it's there if I need it but I sure don't want to use it if there is any way to avoid it.

 

[raggie33]

I like 147 grain.a bit slower but hit hard

 

[raggie33]

If you use plus p make surd ya gun is able to safely

 

[orbital]

are ppu hollow points good ammo?

I have never use PPU hp's but I have shot some of their FMJ range ammo.

For 9 mm I usually carry 124 grain +P HST.

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I have several boxes for my 7.62X25 Tokarev in that line,, 529 ft lbs muzzle energy // very hard to get ammo
PPU are rated high, as good as anything the States

another option for bit more velocity: sku = PPD91 (around $25 for 50 box)

 

[jtr1962]

Thats why ill just run. And my paranoia also works as street smarts so i never let anyone get close enough to me.

I do the same. Flee and live to see another day.

I was never seriously considering carrying a firearm, even if I could qualify in my city, but after reading the legal repercussions it's not worth it. It sounds like you'll be judged in an ivory tower for decisions you made in a split second.

 

[raggie33]

Cut and paste aint working

 

[raggie33]

9mm - 147 Grain HST JHP - Federal Premium Law Enforcement - 50 Rounds is a decent round

 

[raggie33]

Is it true the federal gov no longer willl stop weed smokers from owning guns? I mean alcohol is way worse

 

[alpg88]

Looks that way

The Supreme Court ruled unanimously (9-0) in United States v. Hemani that the federal government cannot automatically disbar casual marijuana users from owning firearms solely based on their drug use. The Court found the 1968 federal ban on drug users possessing guns unconstitutional in these circumstances, stating it violates the Second Amendment.

however

The ruling explicitly avoids striking down the entire federal law. It leaves the door open for prosecutors to penalize gun owners who are demonstrably addicted, actively intoxicated while carrying a firearm, or who display provable, specific dangerousness. [1, 2, 3]
Because the federal government still classifies marijuana as a controlled substance, filling out the federal firearm purchase background check forms (e.g., ATF Form 4473) honestly regarding marijuana use remains a legally grey and highly risky area

 

[raggie33]

Thank god i dont smoke. But when i was healing from snake bite i almost did due to the extreme pain

 

[Monocrom]

Ive heard most self defense situations end with less then 3 rounds being fired

True. But you never know if YOU end up being the exception to that rule.
I'm Cross-dominant (Dominant eye on the opposite side of my body from my dominant hand). Only occurs in 18% of the world's population. Happened to me.

 

[Monocrom]

I think most folks over carry. I think right now the guns to get are the bodyguard 2 or p365 micro 9mm .the reeason i say 9mm is the more ammo availability

No SIGs though. They are absolute trash nowadays. Would not trust my Life to one.

 

[alpg88]

In NYC you are only allowed 7 in the mag. years ago safe act was passed, thou I'm not sure safe for who, for criminals looks like.
It may no longer be enforced, but it is still on books, and no doubt DA would use.

 

[bluflaam777]

I'm Cross-dominant (Dominant eye on the opposite side of my body from my dominant hand).

I am as well. I'm right handed but left-eye dominant. When I was just a weee one my dad was wanting to teach me how to use a rifle (safety, cleaning, use all that)
But he couldn't get thru' his head why I kept looking down the sights with my left eye. He kept telling me to aim with my right LOL

"close your left eye and aim with your right"
Silly man. LOL

RIP Pop! I'll see ya' on the other side.

 

[Monocrom]

I do the same. Flee and live to see another day.

Hopefully not get shot in the back.

I was never seriously considering carrying a firearm, even if I could qualify in my city, but after reading the legal repercussions it's not worth it. It sounds like you'll be judged in an ivory tower for decisions you made in a split second.

Main thing, first priority, survive the violent encounter. Try to talk your way out of it if that opportunity presents itself. Not always the case. If you have to shoot, do so. Disengage at the first opportunity. Call the police immediately. Tell them you were in fear for your life. So you disengaged from the scene. You are close-by. You didn't run away. Tell them you were only trying to STOP your attacker. Do NOT let the police trick you into saying you wanted to kill him.

Then, you deal with the second aspect, in court. But the 2nd one doesn't mean a darn thing if you don't survive the 1st.

Our neck of the woods allows for pepper-spray to be bought and carried legally. But there are huge restrictions in place in terms of size. Still, it's legal. Find a pharmacy nearby that is authorized to sell it. Go there. Ask to buy it. You fill out a short form. And now you are legal to carry it. Look up online for the proper way to deploy it. It's definitely not just stand there, spray, and HOPE for the best. It's better than nothing.

 

[Monocrom]

I am as well. I'm right handed but left-eye dominant. When I was just a weee one my dad was wanting to teach me how to use a rifle (safety, cleaning, use all that)
But he couldn't get thru' his head why I kept looking down the sights with my left eye. He kept telling me to aim with my right LOL

"close your left eye and aim with your right"
Silly man. LOL

RIP Pop! I'll see ya' on the other side.

In fairness to him, most folks to this day have no clue such a condition even exists.
They hear "Cross Dominant," and they think it's some sort of fetish thing.

 

[alpg88]

Main thing, first priority, survive the violent encounter. Try to talk your way out of it if that opportunity presents itself. Not always the case. If you have to shoot, do so. Disengage at the first opportunity. Call the police immediately. Tell them you were in fear for your life. So you disengaged from the scene. You are close-by. You didn't run away. Tell them you were only trying to STOP your attacker. Do NOT let the police trick you into saying you wanted to kill him.

 

[Monocrom]

Plenty of folks who have had to shoot, end up having panic attacks, chest pains, sometimes vomiting on the spot in front of officers. They're not faking. But often times they don't request a hospital visit.

 

[alpg88]

As I understood the video the hospital visit is more of a legal defense strategy than actual need, thou it does not hurt to be monitored for few hours at least after such a high stress event.