sgt253
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Thanks for the info. Gives great context for us that do not have the light. Best.
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akula88
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Can we request for some comparative and walk-around photos of the Turbo head, including that with regular E2d/E2e's heads (KE/KX/hex)?
I generated some interesting data. I tested the Surefire Mini DFT Turbo using my lux meter, and found that it was 100K lux or above at turn-on, and laser measured temp was 78*f. At 1 minute, the temperature measured 100*F and the LUX was unchanged. At 2 minutes, the head measured 100*F, and the LUX had been cut in half to roughly 50K LUX. At 3 minutes, the head was 100*F, and LUX was still hovering low 50K range. At 4 minutes, the head was 100*F, and LUX was still hovering low 50's, at 5 minutes, the head was 99.5*F, and LUX was still low 50's.
I then placed the whole light over my heating vent, and laser measured a temperature of 108-120*f depending on what part was lasered. The light performed at 100K+ LUX.
It seems SF is very strict on their thermal limits, but it's also quite intelligently done.
I then placed the whole light over my heating vent, and laser measured a temperature of 108-120*f depending on what part was lasered. The light performed at 100K+ LUX.
It seems SF is very strict on their thermal limits, but it's also quite intelligently done.
Can you take a photo of the LED? And then I remember that I had something like a dispute with one of my friends, will there be Cree XP-P or Osram inside?
Although, it could be Luminus SFT
Although, it could be Luminus SFT
It looks like XP-P, but I'm not completely sure yet. Thanks for the photo and other information 
It looks like an Osram to me.It looks like XP-P, but I'm not completely sure yet. Thanks for the photo and other information
She is very similar. I looked elsewhere
LED test / review - Cree XLamp XP-P U5 color kit E3 (≈ 5000K, typ. 65 CRI)
LED test / review EN Cree XLamp XP-P U5 color kit E3 XPPAWT-H0-0000-0000U50E3 Luminance is becoming increasingly important. Not only in the automotive sector does the ability of an LED to deliver the highest possible surface brightness enjoy an ever higher priority, but...
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The font type on your photo looks more like Osram.
Looks like you're right, it's some kind of Osram
What worries me, there is a feeling that the diode is sitting on thick solder pads. Usually there is some bare metal on the sides of the diode to allow excess solder to come out, as in the photo of the osram above on the red board. Of course, maybe they do not overload the diode and everything will be fine with long-term operation, but it still worries me. Previously, there were processors that sat on balls of solder (BGA), they sometimes had problems with contacts due to the thickness of the solder ball, the contact was broken. Well, a thick layer of solder is a degraded heat transfer. Also on the forum there were already reports of burned out LEDs in the SF and I saw similar ones burned out on sale on the local flea market, like this P3X
Even though it could all be my OCD. Practice will show when there will be a lot of them on hand and users and some time will pass
Even though it could all be my OCD. Practice will show when there will be a lot of them on hand and users and some time will pass
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rrego
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Bummer on that P3X.
I have a P2X Fury Defender and a Fury DFT that burned their LEDs like that.
Both are pending being sent back to Surefire (have a RMA) for fix and replacement.
SF does a good job of repairing/replacing if they responded to a call/message
kj2
Flashaholic
SF replaced my Fury DF, with a new one. Took about 6 weeks to receive my replacement.
FPSRelic
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How long has opticsplanet had these on their website?
www.opticsplanet.com
SureFire 18350/123 Everyday Carry Dual-Output LED Flashlight, Hard Anodized, EDC1-DFT-HA — Flashlight Application: Outdoor, Color: Gray, Finish: Mil-spec Hard Anodized, Fabric/Material: Aluminum — EDC1-DFT-HA
SureFire 18350/123 Everyday Carry Dual-Output LED Flashlight, — Flashlight Application: Outdoor, Color: Gray, Finish: Mil-spec Hard Anodized, Fabric/Material: Aluminum
www.opticsplanet.com
Belkar
Newly Enlightened
How long has opticsplanet had these on their website?
SureFire 18350/123 Everyday Carry Dual-Output LED Flashlight, Hard Anodized, EDC1-DFT-HA — Flashlight Application: Outdoor, Color: Gray, Finish: Mil-spec Hard Anodized, Fabric/Material: Aluminum — EDC1-DFT-HA
SureFire 18350/123 Everyday Carry Dual-Output LED Flashlight, — Flashlight Application: Outdoor, Color: Gray, Finish: Mil-spec Hard Anodized, Fabric/Material: Aluminum
No idea. But this is hopeful.
rwolfenstein
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Well too late for SF to get my money's, I spent my coin on a cloud defensive mch hc duel fuel.How long has opticsplanet had these on their website?
SureFire 18350/123 Everyday Carry Dual-Output LED Flashlight, Hard Anodized, EDC1-DFT-HA — Flashlight Application: Outdoor, Color: Gray, Finish: Mil-spec Hard Anodized, Fabric/Material: Aluminum — EDC1-DFT-HA
SureFire 18350/123 Everyday Carry Dual-Output LED Flashlight, — Flashlight Application: Outdoor, Color: Gray, Finish: Mil-spec Hard Anodized, Fabric/Material: Aluminum
buickid
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In firearms circles, Optics Planet is known to straight up lie about in stock. Stuff will say "in stock" then shortly after ordering, shipment ETA will be weeks. General advice is to buy somewhere else. Case in point, they recently had a sale on a 1600rd pack of crappy plinking .22LR ammo for $56. They ended up shipping people 400 rd boxes instead, and when people complained, they said it was a typograpical error and the price was for a 400 rd box. Well that would be believable if there wasn't a separate listing for the 400rd box ($35). Avoid Optics Planet if possible...
Optics Planet has taken my money on items that have showed as in stock when they were not. Then come the looooong backorder delay.
After the second time that happened, I crossed them off of my list of companies I buy from.
After the second time that happened, I crossed them off of my list of companies I buy from.
Belkar
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I purchased a Trijicon Accupower LPVO from them accidentally. It was an EBay listing. Couldn't ask for a better transaction.
Then when I tried to purchase some BUIS from their site, they took so long to ship I bought them locally and cancelled my order. Maybe EBay would come down on them if they were how they tend to be. I've heard generally bad things about them.
