ilikeguns40
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I was hoping to see much more reviews, beamshots, side by side comparisons by now. I've held off purchasing and I think it'll stay that way.
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RegularGuy81
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I understand for sure. I am mostly scratching my head at the 600Lm rating. Seems incredibly low for a 18650. And given the legacy of the SC64c and w it might even be frustrating.
I'll still keep my order placed and plan to edc it. I will think of it as a SC53 with longer runtime rather than a backwoods/outdoor/"honey I heard something in the yard" light I was hoping for.
ilikeguns40
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I'm sure the 660 lumens or so won't disappoint and from what I saw the beam and throw looks decent. However, I'm fine with 200-300 lumens for my uses considering I always carry an HDS.
660 does seem very low, especially for an 18650 light. I was hoping to see at least 1000 lumens. The SC64w HI is:
High: H1 1300 Lm (PID, 2.8 hrs) or H2 814 Lm (PID, 2.9 hrs)/467 Lm (PID, 3.2 hrs)/245 Lm (6.3 hrs)
That's impressive and for my uses with that light, I have no reasons to upgrade or purchase the new model at only 660 lumens
I need more reviews/testing and beam comparisons on this new model to justify the purchase
660 does seem very low, especially for an 18650 light. I was hoping to see at least 1000 lumens. The SC64w HI is:
High: H1 1300 Lm (PID, 2.8 hrs) or H2 814 Lm (PID, 2.9 hrs)/467 Lm (PID, 3.2 hrs)/245 Lm (6.3 hrs)
That's impressive and for my uses with that light, I have no reasons to upgrade or purchase the new model at only 660 lumens
I need more reviews/testing and beam comparisons on this new model to justify the purchase
emarkd
Flashlight Enthusiast
You guys are comparing an XHP35 light to a 719a light. Very different emitters. One is a sledge hammer, makes throw by brute force but is pretty messy in the process. One is more finesse, much cleaner and "smarter" but doesn't have the same impact, at least on paper. They're supposed to be different. Use the one that fits your needs.
That aside, its a throwy light - did you buy it for lumens or lux?
That aside, its a throwy light - did you buy it for lumens or lux?
ilikeguns40
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Generally speaking considering the SC64w HI is discontinued, people were hoping this new SC65 HI was gonna be the replacement to the SC64w HI. Apparently it's not the case
RegularGuy81
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I guess I bought it as a non technical person. In a world of 1000lm+ 18650 lights I thought I would be getting a torch made be a small batch type maker...
Time will tell. 600 is still bright, I am not denying that. I am only saying that TO ME, non technical cave man, 18650 = crazy bright, 1 mile of range... just kidding about that. The old OLight Baton 3 I have that is 3 or so years old. I think it is like 1200Lms and almost 500 feet throw using a Cree XM-L2
SYZYGY
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my 519a modded zebralight puts out noticeably less light than my sc64w hi, but it's still usually good enough for my needs.
ilikeguns40
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I'd be totally fine with a 300 lumen output 18650 Zebralight, but I would expect the runtime on H1 to be very very long
Will the 660 lumen SC65 HI have almost double the runtime on H1 as previous 1000+ lumen SC64 models?
Will the 660 lumen SC65 HI have almost double the runtime on H1 as previous 1000+ lumen SC64 models?
jon_slider
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it is too soon, give it time, very few people have received their light yet
only one I know of, also has the 64w Hi, but he is not a reviewer, no runtime charts, no side by side beamshots outdoors..
one reason there are no reviews, is that Zebralight does not offer review samples. Reviewers dont get the light in advance, they have to buy it with their own money, and wait for delivery.
The 65 makes a more intense hotspot per lumen, uses a more efficient driver, has higher CRI, and the tint is less green than the 64w Hi.
I would buy the 65 over the 64w because my first priority is High CRI. But Ive bought neither so far, because I have little need for a thrower...
Between the 65 and the new 53c N, I would buy the h53Fc N first.. because it suits my close range needs better... it has a wider hotspot. otoh, for running the dog off leash at the other end of a football field, the 65 would probably work better.. But I dont have a dog.. So, we will have to wait for someone else to do that test ;-)
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my dream ZL reviews would show runtime plots for each of the 12 output levels with luminous flux, voltage, current, power, and efficiency (luminous flux per unit power) curves. i.e {Φ_v, V, I, I*V, Φ_v/I/V} vs T.
maybe only levels 9-12 would need to be full runtime tests. much shorter tests would be ok for the midrange and low levels especially. you could calculate predicted runtimes pretty easily for those, but it would be nice to also take quick measurements for an input voltage corresponding to a LiIon with low SoC as well so you can compare the power draw and efficiency to full charge voltage. you could get a better runtime prediction that way for example, but it's also just nice to know.
just generally speaking, it would be great to know at the very least the initial power draw and light output on a fresh cell for all of the 12 levels. would even be useful for configuring your profiles on a new light you haven't used before.
maybe only levels 9-12 would need to be full runtime tests. much shorter tests would be ok for the midrange and low levels especially. you could calculate predicted runtimes pretty easily for those, but it would be nice to also take quick measurements for an input voltage corresponding to a LiIon with low SoC as well so you can compare the power draw and efficiency to full charge voltage. you could get a better runtime prediction that way for example, but it's also just nice to know.
just generally speaking, it would be great to know at the very least the initial power draw and light output on a fresh cell for all of the 12 levels. would even be useful for configuring your profiles on a new light you haven't used before.
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jon_slider
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I dont know anyone planning to do those tests..
Have you considered doing the testing yourself? ;-)
this_is_nascar
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Still not shipped.....
Romanko
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Does anyone know efficiency of Nichia 719A? How many lm per watt?
Is there a 719a ~4500K good bin that does not tinge too far to the rose.
FAAbUlights
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Maybe it will be any day now. My order went through 6/16 and I just got the email showing it shipped today.
this_is_nascar
Flashaholic
Just got my shipping notice.
Opple 3
1 meter away (Lux = Candela)
SC65c HI
This is what I got...
Duv -0.0015
Medium M1
Duv -0.0011
1 meter away (Lux = Candela)
SC65c HI
This is what I got...
Duv -0.0015
Medium M1
Duv -0.0011
Level of confidence with these numbers?
I found this test on german forum
[LED-test / Review] Nichia 719AC sm405 T550f26 R9050 (≈ 4000 K, Ra typ. 93) - LED-Chip wunderbar stapelbar?
LED-Test / Review DE Nichia NVSW719AC T550f26 sm405 R9050 23.07.2023 Vor einiger Zeit stellte Nichia die 719A vor, eine LED mit einem sogenannten 'stacked die'. Dies bezeichnet das "Stapeln" der Leuchtflächen übereinander, was die Leuchtdichte deutlich erhöhen soll. Mit der 719A wurde...
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I have no way to tell! What the Opple 3 read from 1 meter away. I think it's around what others have measured. I see no green in the beam, makes some other LED's look green on side by side. Each LED will probably look a little different if you have 5 lights shinning together...
