alpg88
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it is the one you shot best with. thou it is also not so clear, the same person can shoot same caliber , load differently from 2 different guns,
Similar ballistics to the .30 Carbine round from a pistol...+
Interested in ballistics & energy, look at the energy at distance for these,
personally own a fair amount of this exact ammo:
7,62 × 25 TOKAREV – FMJ (V310112) – 85 GRS – Sellier & Bellot
www.sellier-bellot.cz
also have jhp reload bullets from Hornady for that brass.
Not picking on you at all Monocrom, I agree with almost everything you have said here and just want to share my thoughts on a few things, and you mention them all in this post.Sorry, but there's no such thing as natural ability when you're shooting a handgun. For human-beings, it's an unnatural act. And, with 18% of the world's population being cross-dominant, shooting with one eye open solves that issue. Main thing when it comes to defensive shooting is focusing on that front-sight. The rear sights are supposed to be blurry. And for those times when aiming would take too long because an attacker is up close & personal, yes; go ahead and keep both eyes open while using Point Shooting to end the encounter.
HUGE difference between sport shooting and defensive shooting. I've trained with guys who are definitely NOT world champions. That title doesn't exist when it comes to using firearms for self-defense. In fact, if you go to any instructor who claims to be a World Champion at self-defense shooting or insists that cross-dominant students use tape over one eye to keep both eyes open.... Demand your money back! That is simply someone who thinks they know what they are talking about. One of the worst backgrounds you can have in a self-defense shooting instructor, is that of a Sports Shooting World Champion who thinks he knows what he's talking about, simply because he has earned awards with his pistol.
Often times so heavily modified for competition use that it looks nothing like a bog-standard, off the shelf pistol. Best way I can describe it.... If you had severe engine issues with your car, would you take it to a mechanic who only exclusively ever works on transmissions? Would you let THAT type of mechanic work on your engine? Even if he confidently said he knows what he's doing? Even if he showed you a bunch of certificates he earned? All of which were for working on transmissions. Would you let that guy work on your engine? Obviously, no!
Your wife is the exception to the rule. Those exist.
Thank you for proving my point! Time or accuracy penalty??
Those don't exist in the real world! Accuracy is simply center of mass. Aim for the torso. Anywhere you hit is the 10-ring. Time.... That works differently in the real world. T.=D.=T. (Basic formula. You need time in order to acquire distance, so that you have time to draw and fire your defensive handgun!)
I distinctly remember watching an older video of a police officer who was being punched repeatedly in the back of the head. This idiot kept trying to reach for his duty pistol. Each time he did, he got punched! Instead of pivoting his body, hitting his attacker in the side of the head with an elbow in order to gain enough Time to backpedal and thus put a bit of distance between them, so that he'd have Time to draw his weapon; nope! He just kept reaching for it, like an idiot. Thankfully the idiot was saved by a good Samaritan. Good thing too.... because there was a large metal gate that was slowly closing, and would have trapped the idiot officer with his attacker who clearly would have beaten him to death. (And with the idiot still been trying to reach for his pistol.)
Again, HUGE difference between training to be a World Champion vs. training to survive against someone trying to take your Life. With the former, they give you a trophy. With the latter, you get to keep your Life.
Not a benefit if you've trained for defensive shooting. Again, center of mass (torso) only level of accuracy that matters.
Close one eye.
You're not supposed to see all three dots clearly. You focus on that front sight. The rear will naturally become blurry. That's what's supposed to happen. That's what I teach my students. I've mentioned before on CPF that I sometimes volunteer as an instructor at a certain school. And, I don't teach competitive shooting.
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Interested in ballistics & energy, look at the energy at distance for these,
personally own a fair amount of this exact ammo:
It's a shame 357 sig didn't become more popular. I really liked the round on paper. Never got to shoot it, though. I still get some customers carrying it for their CCW, but that's few and far between.I remember when you could get the import war pistols for 7.62 for like $200 off gunbroker. I wanted one.
Just like the beloved 357 Sig…the bottleneck just feeds ultra reliably.
As you know from being in the industry, sadly, gun writers, marketing and money drive that popularity train. A .40 case necked down to a 9mm bullet should be cheap to manufacture since it's two common components in Merica.It's a shame 357 sig didn't become more popular.
You get a .400 cor-bon or .40 Super, or yea a mid 10mm.i wonder what happens if you neck down .45 to 40.. you'll probably get 10mm
It's unfortunate that many police departments still use formulaic training methods. I can do one even worse. Officers in one department trained to take away a handgun from an armed suspect. Training consisted of application of the technique. Followed immediately by the officer handing back the unloaded handgun to the Range Officer. Well, one day, an officer applied the technique. It worked! Problem was, he then immediately handed the weapon back to the suspect who then shot him. Thankfully in that case, the officer lived. Only through dumb luck. I never forgot that true tale, and always keep it in mind when teaching at that school I sometimes volunteer at.Not picking on you at all Monocrom, I agree with almost everything you have said here and just want to share my thoughts on a few things, and you mention them all in this post.
[TLDR version: Shoot the most realistic types of training available to you. Use both eyes only if it works well for you.]
This was a personal thing. Ordered one of their proprietary mounts a few years back. No issue. Ordered from them again a few weeks later. They sent the wrong mount. (Previous order was for a certain Streamlight model. 2nd order was for a certain SureFire model. They had two very different mounts when it came to the SureFire. They sent the wrong one.)I've heard of Cloud Defensive, but not the drama. Spill the tea for me if you don't mind. I'm curious ☕️
When does it become pointless to up load the cartridge, will you get much benefits from hot loaded .357 if you shooting it from a 2-3 inch barrel?You get a .400 cor-bon or .40 Super, or yea a mid 10mm.
45acp case is around 25gr of water, give or take. 10mm case is around 24gr of water, give or take.
A lot of these pistol Wildcat cartridges are built around a gun, rather than built purely for performance.
Also, a lot of handgun cartridges are "built to match x-revolver cartridge in a semi-auto platform."
But most often the new semi-auto cartridge only matches the revolver cartridge on the lower end of speed.
Take the beloved 357 Sig for example... gun writers and publications will tell you it matches the 357 Magnum.
It does until the 357 Magnum wants to go fast then it easily leaves the 357 Sig behind by a considerable margin.
When does it become pointless to up load the cartridge, will you get much benefits from hot loaded .357 if you shooting it from a 2-3 inch barrel?
+I remember when you could get the import war pistols for 7.62 for like $200 off gunbroker. I wanted one.
Just like the beloved 357 Sig…the bottleneck just feeds ultra reliably.