SHOT Show 2012: Surefire 'New Products'

[Blindasabat]

We need a pool (betting pool) on how many of these lights will be released in 2012. Maybe a 50/50 via paypal with half going to CPF? Greta?

But seriously, I have not bought much in the past few years other than neutral LED upgrades to existing lights, but the new programmable lights have me very, VERY interested. Of course they must be moddable. I have neutral XP-G and XM-L already waiting.

 

[Lodogg2221]

Well, the UM2 has pricing out there, and one site is taking pre-orders. Maybe the dealers have word on when they should be in?

Anyway, the Lawman will be out soon, they said so in their video, and I dont know about anyone else, but Ive been bugging the crap out of them for a replacement for my 8AX. Plus, they had it ready before, just upgraded the LED, so hopefully we will see it in the next month or two.

Those two alone will leave me broke for a while, but with their outputs, I think Ill be happy to wait for more! LOL!

 

[madx312]

Re: SureFire DM2 Defender 500 Lumen Programmable Flashlight

Any one care to speculate on the programming?

According to the SF Catalog, with all programmable lights, SF will supply a USB type dongle along with software to allow users to define the output/runtime balance that we desire. It mentions that after we define our output/runtime parameters in the program, we place the light bezel down on the dongle and execute the program. Apparently light from the dongle will flash into the flashlight's optic and re-program the output levels we defined. Pretty innovative I think. :thumbsup:

This can be found on page 32 of the SF catalog if you have the PDF version.

 

[pjandyho]

Re: SureFire DM2 Defender 500 Lumen Programmable Flashlight

According to the SF Catalog, with all programmable lights, SF will supply a USB type dongle along with software to allow users to define the output/runtime balance that we desire.

I don't know where you got this information from but I honestly doubt the dongle would be supplied with every light purchased. I somehow have this feeling that it is going to be sold as an optional accessory. Of course I do hope that what you said is true.

 

[madx312]

Well the catalog doesn't specify if it will be included in the purchase. It just makes it apparent that it's available whether it is supplied (which I hope it is) or if we need to buy it (hopefully not expensive).

If you just look at the catalog you can read it yourself. It's listed under pg. 29 on the catalog and pdf will say pg. 32 because it counts the cover and table of contents as pages.

 

[Brasso]

They should just do an iphone app so we can use our phone as a dongle.

 

[Flashlight Dave]

Re: Pricing on new 2012 SureFires

How can it have all the goodness of the U2 without a reflector? Seriously.

I agree with you on that. I like my lights floody and don't know why surefire is making so many TIR lights. I just bought a L4 just because it has a reflector.

 

[JNewell]

Re: Pricing on new 2012 SureFires

Yeah...I just bought an (are you sitting?) L2!

I agree with you on that. I like my lights floody and don't know why surefire is making so many TIR lights. I just bought a L4 just because it has a reflector.

 

[Illumination]

Yeah, not crazy about the TIR focus (pun intended).

Too many TIR offerings... Just not practical to have such a prounced drop offoutside of the center of the beam. The new U2 replacement looks great save for the TIR. Would definitely prefer a reflector.

 

[Flashlight Dave]

Re: Pricing on new 2012 SureFires

Yeah...I just bought an (are you sitting?) L2!

i LOVE my L2!

I am probably 6 years behind but I have been thinking of making a two stage high and low twisty switch for my L4. I understand McClickie no longer makes them so I plan to make my own.

 

[Falco]

What ever happened to the Saint, I can only find the various versions of the Minimus?

 

[KROMATICS]

Re: SureFire DM2 Defender 500 Lumen Programmable Flashlight

According to the SF Catalog, with all programmable lights, SF will supply a USB type dongle along with software to allow users to define the output/runtime balance that we desire. It mentions that after we define our output/runtime parameters in the program, we place the light bezel down on the dongle and execute the program. Apparently light from the dongle will flash into the flashlight's optic and re-program the output levels we defined. Pretty innovative I think. :thumbsup:

I just noticed that according to the catalog not only is the upcoming UBR Invictus programmable but the UB3T Invictus is programable as well. Not sure if that includes those already on the market or only new versions for 2012.

 

[jimbo@stn23]

Re: Pricing on new 2012 SureFires

i LOVE my L2!

I am probably 6 years behind but I have been thinking of making a two stage high and low twisty switch for my L4. I understand McClickie no longer makes them so I plan to make my own.

The L2 was one of my first forays into the world of Surefire. Still works just fine and puts out a very nice "wall of light". Except for todays lights that have more impressive runtimes per lumen, that 22 lumen low is a great nighttime walking light. A great light and I think you've done well.

 

[jh333233]

Re: Pricing on new 2012 SureFires

The L2 was one of my first forays into the world of Surefire. Still works just fine and puts out a very nice "wall of light". Except for todays lights that have more impressive runtimes per lumen, that 22 lumen low is a great nighttime walking light. A great light and I think you've done well.

Give a try to ask a L1/A2 tailcap from Surefire?
No-hassle warranty i bet
Besides, their service is superb and far better than satisfactory

 

[Blindasabat]

I am LOVING all the TIR offerings - especially the UM2. Though I wish it retained the clip of the original. That and lack of my current U2's awesome neutral tint are the only reasons I wouldn't get a new one.
A TIR will get rid of that nasty useless concentration of light at the edge of the reflector - which is both distracting and wasteful. Bring on the smooth edges of the TIR!
BTW, the KX TIR optics get a bad rap when they DO have spill. They just don't have the bright edge that illuminates what you AREN'T looking at and can ruin your night vision when you are trying to see far away objects. Things up close (trees overhanging, ground at your feet, etc.) are lit up like the sun. And the spot size of the KX optic is excellent - not too small.

And you can put a diffuser on a thrower, but you can't put anything on a floody to make it throw. Except maybe a GIANT reflector around it.

 

[tab665]

Re: SureFire DM2 Defender 500 Lumen Programmable Flashlight

I just noticed that according to the catalog not only is the upcoming UBR Invictus programmable but the UB3T Invictus is programable as well. Not sure if that includes those already on the market or only new versions for 2012.

i wonder if the term progamable is being used loosely in this case, in that you can use the selector ring to determine what brightness the light will come on at.

 

[brianna]

Re: SureFire DM2 Defender 500 Lumen Programmable Flashlight

I love the TIR optics too. I can't ever imagine going back to a old fashioned reflector ever again. TIR feels like the future of flashlights here today.

 

[KROMATICS]

Re: SureFire DM2 Defender 500 Lumen Programmable Flashlight

i wonder if the term progamable is being used loosely in this case, in that you can use the selector ring to determine what brightness the light will come on at.

They are pretty clear that if it has the programable logo next to it in the catalog then it can be used with the special accessory and software to program it.


Page 29:

New for 2012, any SureFire light identified by a "programmable" icon can now be custom programmed by the user via a new SF programming dongle that's easy to use. You set the precise output/runtime balance that's right for you. Just connect the dongle to your computer via its USB port, set the output levels using the software, and then position your light—bezel down—on top of it to complete user programming. Light from the dongle will literally flash into the flashlight's optic and re-program the output levels to the parameters you defined.

 

[iapyx]

I was just having another look at the catalogue again ad specifically at the UM2 and LX2 Ultra.
For long the U2 has been my favorite light. Slowly the LX2 took over. Simply because it's more EDC'able
Looking at the catalogue I am wondering which one I'd rather have this time. Then I read that the UM2 on low still delivers 10 lumens! Where's the low low? Six settings and no low low? That's where the dongle comes around. It's programmable. You can probably get your low low, but for how much? That's the question. What will those dongles cost........

 

[Federal LG]

EB1... where are you??