New SWM M11R Titanium

[rlichter]

The v10r ti+ is 6mm longer, roughly 1/4 inch. That's basically the tail switch.
1. ti+, just a little longer but you can a simple ui and you need to change grip to turn on/off and adjust brightness.
2. m11r ti, just a little shorter but you don't get infinite variable control. you don't get to set the brightness before turning on. ugly ui is up to anybody's taste. get the 1st 800 with free spike so when you can't figure out the ui without the manual, you can use the spike to take it out on something, but make sure you don't play with the light on top of a glass table and accidentally drop the light at the right angle.
3. ti+, you really need an IMR battery to take full advantage of the high brightness but any protected 16340 should get you way over 300lms anyway.
4. there maybe a different tint between the ti+ and m11r ti.

Keep in mind if you EDC a light, beyond a certain point (depending on the size of your hand), smaller size can make a light harder to hold and operate at the same time.

The guy who did the YouTube video on the M11r Sirius (only video I've found so far) owns both the V10r Ti+ and the Sirius and he said the latter has much longer run times. In moonlight mode, it's 35 hours versus 30 days. According to an email response I had from Sunwayman, the infinitely variable brightness circuit is responsible for the additional current draw. (I think; the English was not very good, though incomparably better than my Chinese.)

 

[rlichter]

Extended.

The extender in this photograph looks exactly like the one offered for sale by Battery Junction (SUNWAYMAN-V10R-TI-AA-EXTD) which, they assured me, will *not* fit the M11r Sirius. (They suggested a black anodized aluminum extender they have!) Is the extender pictured the same one BJ carries, and have I been misinformed about its unsuitability?

 

[Ualnosaj]

Works just fine. To be sure, just tried three other different M11R Ti and extenders. I'm not keen to unpack any more so I'll leave it at that

Some dealers may just read whats on the brochures. At HIDC, we prefer a more hands on approach. You can be the judge.

P.S. one is an AA and another is 14500.

For comparison sake, TCR1, M11R AA, V10R Ti+ AA:

The M11R head will NOT fit on the V10R TI+ body. The V10R TI+ head WILL fit on the M11R body (with no advantage). That should tell you about the thread pitch.

Now if you want a super hybrid then a V10R TI+ body with extender will fit the M11R head (of course).

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[rlichter]

I just received a new Sirius and found that the "low" level is nothing like 10 lumen, but more like 0.3 lumen (as visually compared with an HDS Clicky in default low mode). It is difficult to imagine that a light at this price point would ship uninspected and defective. It is also difficult to imagine that Sunwayman would design in a level that is not hell of a lot brighter than Firefly mode. Anybody have similar experience? (I've contacted Sunwayman USA but it will be a couple of days till I can hope to hear back from them.) Thanks for any replies.

 

[rlichter]

SWM are designers. A brand, a company? yes. But foremost they are designers and not manufacturers or owners of factories. It has long been assumed that the factory behind SWM products is the factory which nowadays also produces Niteye branded products. Niteye in turn shares common history with Nitecore/Sysmax and Jetbeam. So there you have it. The connections.

From Flashlight Wiki: "Sunwayman is based in China, formerly known as Sunwayled. They previously manufactured lights for other companies, but now have their own line of lights."

 

[Kilovolt]

I just received a new Sirius and found that the "low" level is nothing like 10 lumen, but more like 0.3 lumen (as visually compared with an HDS Clicky in default low mode). It is difficult to imagine that a light at this price point would ship uninspected and defective. It is also difficult to imagine that Sunwayman would design in a level that is not hell of a lot brighter than Firefly mode. Anybody have similar experience? (I've contacted Sunwayman USA but it will be a couple of days till I can hope to hear back from them.) Thanks for any replies.

Also in the case of my Sirius the low level is surely not 10 lumens, the difference between low and firefly being rather limited. Comparing it with other lights I judge it to be in the range of 2-3 lumens which BTW is ideal for me for cruising around my home during the night.

 

[shelm]

wow, this might be of interest, Bill of doingoutdoorDOTcom has the Sirius for 145$ incl. registered airmail tracking. that's 25$ less than most dealers.

i have the feeling that not too many are discussing this light?

 

[rlichter]

TC4 Grade Ttianium Alloy...what's that? how does it compare to Olight Ti, Bronte Ti, 4Sevens Ti, Eagletac Ti, Jetbeam Ti, ITP Ti, Klarus Ti?

Far as I've been able to determine, TC4 titanium is Chinese nomenclature for what in the West is called 6, 4 titanium: "...6% aluminium, 4% vanadium, 0.25% (maximum) iron, 0.2% (maximum) oxygen, and the remainder titanium" This alloy is commonly used for bicycle frames, it is very strong and durable.

 

[rlichter]

A quick update. A friend of mine who doesnt want to out himself recently got his copy of the Sirius. He is into Titanium collecting like me. I have Eagletac Ti, ITP Ti, he has Quark Ti, Olight S10 Ti, a.o.

He said that his M11R Sirius is as greenish as his Olight S10 Ti but he wont return it to the seller: the Titanium be too yummy. On CPF/CPFMP several people (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, ..) complain about the VERY greenish tint of their S10 Ti "Baton". :green:

Since buying a very greenish Quark X last year during Black Friday Blitz Sale Weekend, i've gotten myself allergic to expensive lights with greenish tints, i must admit ymmv. I never liked the S10 Baton, so i dont bother if it's greenish XML. But the Sirius, seriously??

What are you paying for then, if the LED's beam aint better than my Ultrafire budget light with CREE xml u2?

Wow, that's a real bummer. SWM lets us down (as before in other SWM releases with greenish tints). Well, actually it is CREE who lets us down. Not SWM's fault if CREE produces greenish tinted XML's.

Also check out the Zebralight SC52 thread (OP)..

I haven't seen the Baton, but I have seen an XM-L version of the 4Sevens 123 Ti that was very greenish. I don't like green either. I've had two Sirius flashlights (one of them returned for an unrelated problem) and the tint was not dominated by green but was a very pale blue to white. There is a green corona at close range, but over a few feet it blends and disappears. I find the tint the most beautiful I've seen.

 

[gradio]

After looking at the pics, seeing that decent case, extender available, might have to now add this to my working list for my next order.
My list grows and dwindles but a time will come to pull a pin on the next order for whatever it happens to be at that moment.
This M11R Ti looks nice too.
Thoughts - recently bought a RRT-01 and was thinking of getting another (next order). M11R Ti might be in the running now instead... just not all sure yet what to do.
Nice

 

[Kilovolt]

My Sirius does something odd and I would like to know whether I am alone with this behaviour.

I have a dozen RCR123 cells all by AW. I noticed yesterday that with 2 or 3 of them the M11R when it is off flashes from time to time like a beacon. With the other 10 or so it does not.
Initially I used this light with the primary cell supplied by the seller and nothing strange happened, then I put into it an AW RCR123 and ditto. At the third or fourth cell replacement, always with AW's, the light started flashing. I changed the cell and it stopped.
Now I have seen that with 2 or 3 AW's it does that while with the remaining ones it does not. The voltage of the cells out of the charger is the same so the only explanation that comes to my mind is that a slightly different internal resistance plays this trick with the light's circuit.

Any similar experience and/or comment?

 

[gunga]

Any one know what the actual levels are with 16340?

 

[Dubois]

My Sirius does something odd and I would like to know whether I am alone with this behaviour.

I have a dozen RCR123 cells all by AW. I noticed yesterday that with 2 or 3 of them the M11R when it is off flashes from time to time like a beacon. With the other 10 or so it does not.
Initially I used this light with the primary cell supplied by the seller and nothing strange happened, then I put into it an AW RCR123 and ditto. At the third or fourth cell replacement, always with AW's, the light started flashing. I changed the cell and it stopped.
Now I have seen that with 2 or 3 AW's it does that while with the remaining ones it does not. The voltage of the cells out of the charger is the same so the only explanation that comes to my mind is that a slightly different internal resistance plays this trick with the light's circuit.

Any similar experience and/or comment?

Lightjunction report problems with 16340 batteries around the 4v range. Perhaps that is similar to your problem?

 

[Kilovolt]

Lightjunction report problems with 16340 batteries around the 4v range. Perhaps that is similar to your problem?

Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately they do not say what the reported issues are about.

Later on I have posted the same question on CPFM's SWM subforum but the light manufacturer has not (yet?) commented.

 

[NickBose]

Any pre flash on this one like in the M40A?

 

[kreisl]

Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately they do not say what the reported issues are about.

Later on I have posted the same question on CPFM's SWM subforum but the light manufacturer has not (yet?) commented.

Any pre flash on this one like in the M40A?

A short while ago I bought it from a Chinese dealer who has recent production stock. I played with the light a lot, tested it, and left a product comment on the fasttech site with technical observations. First of all, the light has no pre-flash. Second, a technical review can be found on the RdL blog. Third, owners of the early production stock seem to have higher standby current drain. Maybe that's a way to identify if your sample is a problematic one with the 4V pulse flashes.

I am still doing a standby current drain discharge test with 14500 and because of the very low standby current on my sample, 5uA no kidding!, it's still a long way to go before it reaches the 4V critical mark. So if you have a copy with say 150uA standby current on Li-Ion (RCR123 or 14500), then :nana:

In summary, if your sample is flawless, then it's a gorgeous product with great tint and beam. 5uA standby current, that's insanely low. And if your sample doesn't perform flawlessly, then it feels like it isn't worth the 190 bucks (new price on ebay, fasttech, ..) :ironic:

 

[NickBose]

First of all, the light has no pre-flash ... worth the 190 bucks (new price on ebay, fasttech, ..) :ironic:

Good to hear that! About the price what fool would pay that much? It's A LOT lower than that.

 

[Kilovolt]

I am not equipped to measure uA's but even with the reported 'beacon' flashing going on for days and days the cell does not go too low. The infuriating thing is that this flashing just happens from time to time, then there's weeks without it so I am pretty sure that in case I sent back the light they would probably find nothing wrong with it. The only solution is to keep it as it is since the flashing does not drain the battery too much and in any case I have the habit of replacing it with a fully charged one rather often.

 

[rlichter]

I am not equipped to measure uA's but even with the reported 'beacon' flashing going on for days and days the cell does not go too low. The infuriating thing is that this flashing just happens from time to time, then there's weeks without it so I am pretty sure that in case I sent back the light they would probably find nothing wrong with it. The only solution is to keep it as it is since the flashing does not drain the battery too much and in any case I have the habit of replacing it with a fully charged one rather often.

Known problem. Fixable by Sunwayman.

 

[ceramichip2]

My Sirius does something odd and I would like to know whether I am alone with this behaviour.

I have a dozen RCR123 cells all by AW. I noticed yesterday that with 2 or 3 of them the M11R when it is off flashes from time to time like a beacon. With the other 10 or so it does not.
Initially I used this light with the primary cell supplied by the seller and nothing strange happened, then I put into it an AW RCR123 and ditto. At the third or fourth cell replacement, always with AW's, the light started flashing. I changed the cell and it stopped.
Now I have seen that with 2 or 3 AW's it does that while with the remaining ones it does not. The voltage of the cells out of the charger is the same so the only explanation that comes to my mind is that a slightly different internal resistance plays this trick with the light's circuit.

Any similar experience and/or comment?

My replacement light is periodically flashing like a beacon from the off position. I have an Eagletac 16340 in it right now and it seems to have a mind of it own. I have also tried a Zebralight 14500 and an AW 16340 and the flashing was worse. My first light consistently flashed every 3 and a half minutes. I guess I may have to return the light unless Sunwayman can fix it.