The Official Malkoff Junkie thread - Part 2

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I've steered away from the MDC AA because of the lack of reverse polarity protection, but I'm reconsidering. What are your thoughts on the neutral cree version vs. the Nichia 219b?

I like the MDC AA. That's my go-to nightstand light if I need to get up without disturbing the missus...or our dog that sleeps near the foot of the bed.

No personal experience with the Nichia.
 

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I've steered away from the MDC AA because of the lack of reverse polarity protection, but I'm reconsidering. What are your thoughts on the neutral cree version vs. the Nichia 219b?
That's why I avoided it as well. I have put batteries in wrong before. Stuff just happens and more so in the dark. Lack of polarity protection was resolved over a decade ago by just about everyone. Time for a refresh IMHO.
 

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That's why I avoided it as well. I have put batteries in wrong before. Stuff just happens and more so in the dark. Lack of polarity protection was resolved over a decade ago by just about everyone. Time for a refresh IMHO.

Is that true? the only AA lights i have with polarity protection have physical barriers in place that require the battery to have a bump at the end to make electrical contact. How would that work in a flashlight that has springs on both ends?

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thoughts on the neutral cree version vs. the Nichia 219b?

The neutral has an ever-so-slight tan look to it. Like yellow was used to make it less 'white'.
The 219b uses and ever so slight pink look like red/(orange?) was used to make it less white.

Kinda hard to see the difference if used one at a time, but in side by side wall use the difference can be seen.

Unless you are picky, either one has a nice tint.
 
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219 had a weird tint. I wouldn't call it pink. But it was odd. And I've seen lots of tints over the years.

I did not like it.

219B is much better. Maybe the nicest tint I have.
 

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So I got the M91T and traded M61HOT.

The MD2 "HOT" is a neat module. It was the smallest-most powerful light I had. Truly a pocket rocket. The other way to put it, it had the best size efficiency I've ever seen. Now the Hound Dog Super MD6 I have is a lot brighter but it's also 3 times bigger. The regular HD is also much brighter but it's also much bigger. This thing is relatively tiny and throws like a <insert your favorite term here>

Yet much as I tried to like HOT I never did love it all that much.
It had a very high almost 2Amps consumption, I think the exact figure is 1.75Amps. and yes I do know most of the local expert do not think it's high at all. Well.. It's high enough that 123s are not recommended. They can but not desired. Didn't run on anything but 18650. The runtime wasn't that good. It did not run on all the 18650 cells I had. I had a lot of older 10 year old junk cells and some of them didn't last very long at all. I did get the stated 30 mins on new 18650s that were high capacity.


So there it is, the M91T. I don't have the M61HOT to compare it with anymore but I got the impression that the HOT threw a bit more, had a bit hotter hotspot. Indeed, comparing the lux numbers, HOT is 20K and M91T is 19K - very close. Now the total lumens goes to M91T and the size of the hotspot is larger. It's truly an impressive wall of light. It's bright, the hotspot is nice and huge and it destroys the M61T that I have and laughs at the M61 so bad it's not even funny.

the module really shines on 2x18650 -- you get the lumens, the runtime *and* if you so desire, can stick in the common 123 cells in it if you run out of precious 18650s. Now that is something.

I think 2x18650 with the M91T is the largest EDC you can even contemplate. I have some nice cargo pants where it disappears. The smaller 18650 HD is kinda too large to fit in all pockets, due to the diameter but this thing is slim.

Of course the 18650 HD destroyed the M91T, as expected. Not lumens wise but the lux is much higher in HD, they are completely different lights and I do recommend both as a matter of fact.

Now the lumens difference between HOT and M91T is minimal, only about 75 lumens. It's actually hard to tell. It's there but only a hair.
The real difference is the runtime. And the ability to run multiple cells that's the winner here.

I don't disparage HOT at all, if you want a subcompact with tons of lumens, this is it. It was and still is a rocket. and well worth the coin.

The other good thing is, the M91T generates 30 lumens on low, much more useful than the 7 lumens on low that HOT generates.

Everything Malkoff makes is great.

Now if you want smallest possible package with most lumens for EDC, M61HOT is it.

If you want variety and the ability to try various combinations (2x18650, 4x123, and MD2 with 2x18350s, etc. etc.) M91T is for you. The lumens level is approximately the same. 575 lumens vs 650, HOT and M91T respectively.

Basically out of M61T, M61HOT and M91T, pick 2 out of 3. They are so similar that not sure all 3 are needed.

I picked M91T and M61T but could very well live without M61T with HOT instead.
 
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Can someone of you guys help me by posting pics of led side of malkoff M31W dropin and M61W please?
 

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I don't trust these pics. So if someone has these 2 dropins he can help me by posting picture of the LEDs inside..
 

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And am looking for m61 High CRI 90 if any have one of these for sale please let me know. (Posting here just to let everyone know what am looking for)
 

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Just as a FYI, the first gen M31W's were neutral @5000K.
Even the 2nd Gens were 4000K, before going to a true Warm after that.

So "M31W" casts a rather wide net compared to other more defined Malkoff product lines.

The same thing may have occured with the first M61W's; but since I don't have one of those, I am less familiar with them.

IIRC there is a M31W currently listed in the MP; an interested buyer might be advised to ascertain which 'W' it is ...
 
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Wow Kestrel.

That is great info.
My "W's" are seemingly the modern tint except one M61 WL I bought in 015.

I remember looking at the pill thinking perhaps Gene had mis-labeled an N for a W. Being I like both tints I never gave it a second thought.
 

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How long has the m61 been advertised as 425 lumens? Does anyone know the lumen increments the m61 has undergone over the years?
 

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How long has the m61 been advertised as 425 lumens? Does anyone know the lumen increments the m61 has undergone over the years?


hmm...the change must have been made in the last couple of weeks. I'm quite certain it still said 325L the last time I looked at Malkoff's site which couldn't have been more than a month ago.

--flatline
 
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