Doh!!
Your right to travel is not impinged. There are ships, trains, busses and Craigslist rideshare. It is more convenient to drive but not mandatory. Truly not a right, but sometimes a necessity. Your speculation is based on fear. The best nuclear source is up in the sky the majority of the day. You can avoid beholding to the Russians and Saudis. Make your own energy. I do. There is excess energy during the day in California and Texas. This is from renewables. Nuclear is pushing the cost to future generations, who must archive the dangerous material for 100,000 years. Fission would work though. People are working on it. I drive electric and am quite happy with the results. I have stopped suckling the fossil fuel tit and am ahead financially and in convenience.Can someone explain to me, how, with the proposed adoption of an all EV policy,
That they are all going to be charged without Oil, Gas or coal running power stations?
Because the obvious answer would be Nuclear, which has always been unacceptable to the very people who are advocating EV's?
Are there any future plans for more NP stations?
The obvious answer is to reduce a populations opportunity to travel, or in other words, remove your right to travel.
This is the only way it would work, at present.
I don't know. You didn't say. You speculate. That the car was out of state, to me, is no big deal and expected. EV road trips have been a thing since the teens.Why do you assume it was not a Telsa? Why do you assume the trip it made had any relation to any of the trips you described? Did you not understand the car was from several states away?
See, what you failed to notice was I was actually trying to point out electric cars are getting better yet they still have a ways to go.
How easily you're triggered to reply sans anything more substantial than a non-issue joke. 😁 Everyone reading my post understands it's a joke .... everyone but you.View attachment 58976I can give you hundreds of cars being towed. What's your point? Every car without a spare needs a tow with a flat. Non issue.
at least it's not on fire.
Dude! It's not a joke. It's an attitude. We now have the means. Doing the right thing will be more and more affordable. I understand the fear. Conquer it. Use logic not strained through politics and you will get the right answer, that is the best compromise. Direct use of electricity using a cord. For convenience add batteries.How easily you're triggered to reply sans anything more substantial than a non-issue joke. 😁 Everyone reading my post understands it's a joke .... everyone but you.
My point? No hill is too small that you don't feel a need to climb and plant your flag of victory. Life is too short. Lighten up, Sport.
Your speculation is faulty according to people who have done the math.they will make us drive EV's until they figure out that windmills and solar panels don't generate enough electricity to charge them all and then you will take the bus (diesel).
Attitude or are you talking about the Molotov Cocktails you drive which burn on a daily basis? It is curious everyone here accepts batteries and electricity for illumination. I accept batteries unless I can use a cord. I have one of those old spring coil shop lights that can go anywhere in the garage without batteries. I have an electric chainsaw with a cord. Leafblower with a cord, better than 2-stroke. All this kicking and screaming over something that is inevitable and clearly better and eventually less expensive than the current paradigm. Great minds are working on it.at least it's not on fire.
This has been covered in the threads of this forum, but it all gets lost in the soup. I'll try to post a cohesive summary of the info when I have more time. It's been interesting. For now, my quick take is this:Can someone explain to me, how, with the proposed adoption of an all EV policy,
That they are all going to be charged without Oil, Gas or coal running power stations?
Because the obvious answer would be Nuclear, which has always been unacceptable to the very people who are advocating EV's?
Are there any future plans for more NP stations?
At present, sure, hypothetically. In reality there is no impingement right now. Only a rhetorical one. The most aggressive plans are 10 years out, just for new cars, and only in some states.The obvious answer is to reduce a populations opportunity to travel, or in other words, remove your right to travel.
This is the only way it would work, at present.
It's not purely political. Certainly not for me. But everyone seems to be working with their own preferred facts from their own preferred sources.you pretty much nailed it, it is purely political, as long as you look at it with logic, you will never understand. it contradicts it.
I'd agree that nobody's right to travel is currently impinged. The concern for many is that EV mandates will amount to a significant impediment on people's freedom to travel. I think it's a valid concern. And no...Ships, trains busses and ride shares are not an acceptable concession. Nor should they be.Your right to travel is not impinged. There are ships, trains, busses and Craigslist rideshare. It is more convenient to drive but not mandatory. Truly not a right, but sometimes a necessity. Your speculation is based on fear.
How easily you're triggered to reply sans anything more substantial than a non-issue joke. 😁 Everyone reading my post understands it's a joke .... everyone but you.
My point? No hill is too small that you don't feel a need to climb and plant your flag of victory. Life is too short. Lighten up, Sport.
@mrfixitman, I find myself agreeing with the the substance of much of what you say, but you really gotta work on your delivery. Are you trying to convince people of something, or just convince yourself that you're right? If convinced the world is going to play out more aligned with your vision than your detractors, perhaps that can inspire some patience. Hubris is corrosive. It's why you have detractors in the first place.Dude! It's not a joke. It's an attitude. We now have the means. Doing the right thing will be more and more affordable. I understand the fear. Conquer it. Use logic not strained through politics and you will get the right answer, that is the best compromise.
I mean, as of right now, that's pretty much what's going on, though much less aggressive. There's no federal mandate, and the EPA's federal power is being curtailed by the courts. Some states have have a no-new ICE sales by 2035 plan. California is trying to go 100% zero emissions grid by 2045 (not 2035).if mandates are so great how about making it a crime to charge an EV with power not 100% generated by wind and solar?
and how about mandating that all of those states and cities generate all of their electricity with wind and solar by 2035 and leave the rest of us alone?
Sorry "pretty much what's going on" doesn't cut it – only a tiny percentage of the energy in our grid is generated by wind and solar. If these states/cities/individuals want to force us to do these things with all these mandates they should lead by example and live under their own rules before they force them on the rest of us.I mean, as of right now, that's pretty much what's going on, though much less aggressive. There's no federal mandate, and the EPA's federal power is being curtailed by the courts. Some states have have a no-new ICE sales by 2035 plan. California is trying to go 100% zero emissions grid by 2045 (not 2035).
it's not just ICE vehicles, it's meat, guns, light bulbs, toilets and just about anything else they think of to ban. And oh yeah, they want to kill off 6 billion people and make the rest of us eat bugs:Bit surprised that the environmental advocates in this thread have not declared that air-conditioning and babies breathing is as bad for the environment as the pollution from ICE vehicles. (Actually no, I'm not joking. I attended a very liberal college back in the day. Our lunatic liberal professors saw nothing wrong with presenting classes that discussed how both should be banned/heavily regulated and restricted.)
Oh, this was back in the day when Climate Change was still Global Warming, but after it was the 2nd Ice-Age movement. Explore the history of the movement, and the scam element reveals itself faster than an "Entertainer" showing a room full of men a very interesting way to polish a chrome pole.
Does the Earth naturally go through cycles of heat and cold. Yes. Does that have anything to do with human-beings? Nope! But since the scam is based on this actual science, people still buy into it.
Again, that's pretty much what's going on. Almost exactly. Weather it cuts it or not doesn't change that fact that Ca is in fact leading by example. I've posted this 11 part series before, but part 1 does a good job of running through the plan and challenge. It's fair coverage.Sorry "pretty much what's going on" doesn't cut it – only a tiny percentage of the energy in our grid is generated by wind and solar. If these states/cities/individuals want to force us to do these things with all these mandates they should lead by example and live under their own rules before they force them on the rest of us.