Gas prices

[Booyakasha]

What if we Americans had a 50% price increase in the milk we purchase? Would that make the price you pay for milk cheap?

Are you sure 50% is enough, because the cheapest one here is 4.5 usd/gallon. And the one I actually drink costs 7.7 usd per gallon.

But if you were paying 15$ for gallon, ours would be very cheap in comparison and it would have been insane to complain that prices are high, despite having the lowest prices in all western countries.

Keep in mind that average yearly gross income in EU is only 40k

 

[Chauncey Gardener]

I gladly pay $6.00 a gallon so as not to have to travel with strangers.

 

[Chauncey Gardener]

Are you sure 50% is enough, because the cheapest one here is 4.5 usd/gallon. And the one I actually drink costs 7.7 usd per gallon.

But if you were paying 15$ for gallon, ours would be very cheap in comparison and it would have been insane to complain that prices are high, despite having the lowest prices in all western countries.

See? Now I think you just want to argue. Have a nice day. HA HA! We Americans have cheap gas. You don't!

And we got cheap milk, too.

 

[Booyakasha]

See? Now I think you just want to argue. Have a nice day. HA HA! We Americans have cheap gas. You don't!

You might not be able to see it from your bubble, but yeah, your gas is cheap.

 

[Chauncey Gardener]

You might not be able to see it from your bubble, but yeah, your gas is cheap.

You say that like it's a bad thing. I LOVE my bubble.

 

[Booyakasha]

You say that like it's a bad thing. I LOVE my bubble.

It’s not a bad thing, quite the opposite, it’s awesome. A lot of things are cheaper in US, even European goods. Partially because US is a huge market and partially because your government is less greedy.

P.S. if you are paying 50% of our prices, it would take a 100% increase to match our prices and 200% to make ours 50% cheaper than yours

 

[Chauncey Gardener]

It’s not a bad thing, quite the opposite, it’s awesome. A lot of things are cheaper in US, even European goods. Partially because US is a huge market and partially because your government is less greedy.

OK.

 

[bluflaam777]

P.S. if you are paying 50% of our prices, it would take a 100% increase to match our prices and 200% to make ours 50% cheaper than yours

Maffs should be taken in moderation. Some smart guy said that ...somewhere.

LOL

 

[Chauncey Gardener]

Maffs should be taken in moderation. Some smart guy said that ...somewhere.

LOL

Remember when Barbie said, "Math class is tough."?

BOY! Did that cause an uproar!

 

[Monocrom]

I gladly pay $6.00 a gallon so as not to have to travel with strangers.

In the past, they used to be just strange. But the strangers on the bus and the subway system have become downright dangerous in my neck of the woods. I own a car, and will NEVER look for employment in Manhattan ever again! Doing so would mean being forced to take Public transportation on a daily basis, again. Not happening! Thankfully for now, my job is secure. But if it wasn't, I'd hunt for a job in Long Island, instead. Car culture is alive and well there.

 

[Buff]

Love driving and riding my motorcycle. My jeep and caddy guzzle the gas/petrol but we switch to our Mini Cooper when gas goes up stupidly. World market dictating prices is just an excuse to gouge us.
So if a steak dinner at a nice New York restaurant is i don’t know $100 how come i can get a nice dinner i NC for at least half the price probably more as i haven’t been out to eat since steak dinners were $25?
We produce most of our own oil i think we should control our own prices?

 

[Buff]

When i lived in England whatever the price off base was our on base price was a 1/4 the cost converting to dollars.
Was $3.50 a gallon compared to a dollar so maybe 1/3 the price? 1980ish.
Need oil for my Triumph my English friend helped me rebuild in his garage and he sent me to the base to get oil. I strapped two cases of quart bottles onto his 1966 Triumph 650 Thunderbird and i only need 4 quarts lol.
Pints at the time were the same price as our quarts? Europe and England are being ripped off.
Don’t even ask me how many cases of Budweiser i strapped to my 1976 Triumph Bonniville when we got it on the road. The Triumph Owners club had a great way of celebrating another Triumph back on the road!!

 

[Monocrom]

Love driving and riding my motorcycle. My jeep and caddy guzzle the gas/petrol but we switch to our Mini Cooper when gas goes up stupidly. World market dictating prices is just an excuse to gouge us.
So if a steak dinner at a nice New York restaurant is i don’t know $100 how come i can get a nice dinner i NC for at least half the price probably more as i haven’t been out to eat since steak dinners were $25?
We produce most of our own oil i think we should control our own prices?

For one person? Double that + gratuity.
(Assuming no alcohol is ordered.)

 

[TPA]

I agree. Less expensive gasoline doesn't mean cheap. Even at $2.00 per gallon I consider the fuel costs to drive exorbitant compared to the costs of other types of transportation. That's not even getting into fixed costs like insurance. In fact even if fuel were free driving would be too costly for my tastes.

My time is worth far more than "other types of transportation" cost. From where I'm sitting right now, the bus would take 2-2.5 hours. It's 14 minutes by car. Even if you're making $15/hr, the bus doesn't add up in this case. Uber is $35.

NYC's MTA charges $3/fare now. If you're using the OMNY, $35/week or $67/week. That's more than I spend on fuel with my normal daily driver car, which is a luxo-barge.

I drive premium cars and make no bones about it. When you're in a car for up to 6 hours in a single day, the environment you're in matters. A quieter, smoother car leaves you much more refreshed after a long drive. It's the difference between arriving at the destination city and going straight to the client's office or straight for the hotel. If I'm spending 2-4 hours in a space regularly, I want it to be comfortable and enjoyable, preferably peaceful.

You're not going to get anything remotely comfortable, enjoyable, or peaceful from the MTA.

My cars are all paid for, 'youngest' is 8 years old, oldest is 20 years old, and I still smile each morning I open the garage door and drive them.

For one person? Double that + gratuity.
(Assuming no alcohol is ordered.)

Outback Steakhouse has a 6 oz sirloin w/side for $15. Agreed, it's not Keens nor M&P (RIP) on 50th & Park, BUT, $15 is McDonald's territory these days.

 

[jtr1962]

My time is worth far more than "other types of transportation" cost. From where I'm sitting right now, the bus would take 2-2.5 hours. It's 14 minutes by car. Even if you're making $15/hr, the bus doesn't add up in this case. Uber is $35.

NYC's MTA charges $3/fare now. If you're using the OMNY, $35/week or $67/week. That's more than I spend on fuel with my normal daily driver car, which is a luxo-barge.

I drive premium cars and make no bones about it. When you're in a car for up to 6 hours in a single day, the environment you're in matters. A quieter, smoother car leaves you much more refreshed after a long drive. It's the difference between arriving at the destination city and going straight to the client's office or straight for the hotel. If I'm spending 2-4 hours in a space regularly, I want it to be comfortable and enjoyable, preferably peaceful.

You're not going to get anything remotely comfortable, enjoyable, or peaceful from the MTA.

My cars are all paid for, 'youngest' is 8 years old, oldest is 20 years old, and I still smile each morning I open the garage door and drive them.

Car travel doesn't agree with me. I get nauseous in short order due to the fumes and outgassing from car interiors. Besides that, I don't want to be bothered having to operate a vehicle. Too much legal responsibility if something goes wrong.

The subway fare is capped at $35 a week if you use OMNI no matter how many trips you take. If you do a normal 5-day work week you pay $30 per week. That's less than car insurance alone in NYC.

It's quicker to take the subway than car for many trips. I'm in Manhattan in 30 to 40 minutes using the Q64 bus and the Queens Boulevard express. Driving takes longer except during early AM hours.

Your calculations presuppose you have the money to trade for time. A person making $15 an hour certainly can't afford a car. I couldn't afford one even when I was making $100K, not that I wanted one anyway. Also time on a train isn't wasted time. You can study or do some work. Can't do that while driving. A 2 hour car trip is time down the drain.

To each their own I guess. I'll take walking, biking, and the subway over car travel any day. Even the subway is a heck of lot smoother ride than your typical car on NYC streets. Commuter rail and Amtrak are even better. Amtrak goes up to 125 mph (160 mph on the Acela) on the Northeast Corridor. Can't drive that fast outside of maybe rural Interstates.

I hardly travel anyway. Maybe I go to Manhattan a few times a year and locally in Queens somewhat more often. To me a car is a solution in search of a problem. Complete waste of money as far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't want a car even if someone gave it to me for free.

 

[Toulouse42]

My time is worth far more than "other types of transportation" cost. From where I'm sitting right now, the bus would take 2-2.5 hours. It's 14 minutes by car. Even if you're making $15/hr, the bus doesn't add up in this case. Uber is $35.

NYC's MTA charges $3/fare now. If you're using the OMNY, $35/week or $67/week. That's more than I spend on fuel with my normal daily driver car, which is a luxo-barge.

I drive premium cars and make no bones about it. When you're in a car for up to 6 hours in a single day, the environment you're in matters. A quieter, smoother car leaves you much more refreshed after a long drive. It's the difference between arriving at the destination city and going straight to the client's office or straight for the hotel. If I'm spending 2-4 hours in a space regularly, I want it to be comfortable and enjoyable, preferably peaceful.

You're not going to get anything remotely comfortable, enjoyable, or peaceful from the MTA.

My cars are all paid for, 'youngest' is 8 years old, oldest is 20 years old, and I still smile each morning I open the garage door and drive them.

Outback Steakhouse has a 6 oz sirloin w/side for $15. Agreed, it's not Keens nor M&P (RIP) on 50th & Park, BUT, $15 is McDonald's territory these days.

Yes I agree. Some of us need a car. I use my car several times a week for things you can't do with public transport. Plus my convenience and comfort are important to me. Time in the car is not necessarily wasted as I often listen to an audio book (politics, economics, history, science etc.).

Also lets not forget that I enjoy driving.

 

[Galane]

Outback Steakhouse has a 6 oz sirloin w/side for $15. Agreed, it's not Keens nor M&P (RIP) on 50th & Park, BUT, $15 is McDonald's territory these days.

McDonalds pricing today for a quarter pounder with cheese is where Red Robin was a few years ago.

 

[Chauncey Gardener]

What's the point of discussing anything with someone unwilling or unable to see past their own nose?

 

[dc38]

What's the point of discussing anything with someone unwilling or unable to see past their own nose?

toucan play at that game!

 

[Chauncey Gardener]

toucan play at that game!