USB on board charging....

[dc38]

The fact 5 employees tried to put out the (battery pack from Kia) lion fire using common extinguisher chemicals to no prevail until they finally covered (smothered) with a fire blanket.
Just for some piece of mind, imo it wouldn't be a bad idea owning a quality lithium fire blanket

Sand works as well, but keeping a bunch on hand could be a cumbersome use of space...

 

[knucklegary]

I remember the EV vehicle fire on hwy from LA to LV on the news. it looked like they dumped 100's yards of sand to put out that fire.

 

[dc38]

I remember the EV vehicle fire on hwy from LA to LV on the news. it looked like they dumped 100's yards of sand to put out that fire.

that's why you should always carry...POCKET SAND!

 

[Robocop]

Pocket sand....ha that is the funniest thing I have heard in some time. I responded to a garage fire on an electric vehicle and there really was not much I could do. Our local fire dept was there and simply held a small perimeter until it was finished. I watched it burn and it is hard to explain how it burns. It is not as much of a flame as it is more like a road flair. It sounds different and just looking at it you just know it is very hot. This is the single reason I will not even ride in an EV much less own one.

 

[dc38]

Pocket sand....ha that is the funniest thing I have heard in some time. I responded to a garage fire on an electric vehicle and there really was not much I could do. Our local fire dept was there and simply held a small perimeter until it was finished. I watched it burn and it is hard to explain how it burns. It is not as much of a flame as it is more like a road flair. It sounds different and just looking at it you just know it is very hot. This is the single reason I will not even ride in an EV much less own one.

It's scary when a fire provides its own accelerant...That road flare statement is spot on, lithium fires do the same "hiss", and water doesn't exactly extinguish the already burning lithium...it even exacerbates it to some extent.

 

[Robocop]

Everything about the EV fire was different than what I have seen with other fires. It did have a very unusual sound and even looked much brighter than a normal flame. It was almost like looking at a welding torch. This is also another reason I do not like to carry lights that use multiple Li/Ion cells together. From what I have read it seems that a single Li/Ion is much safer than multiples. I have no idea how many cells make up the average EV however I am sure it is well over a few hundred. It just seems like a recipe for disaster and I find it hard to believe we have not figured out a better way by now.

 

[archimedes]

.... I have no idea how many cells make up the average EV however I am sure it is well over a few hundred....

With so many questionable AI "written" articles on the web now, it has gotten much more difficult to find simple authoritative answers with basic searches, but a post on a Tesla Owners forum discussed repairs on their Roadster 99s69p battery pack. So, what's that, 6,831 cells ?

 

[jtr1962]

I have no idea how many cells make up the average EV however I am sure it is well over a few hundred. It just seems like a recipe for disaster and I find it hard to believe we have not figured out a better way by now.

We have-LiFePO4 cells or sodium-ion cells. Neither one is prone to thermal runaway. The downside is lower range but the gap is closing fast. Right now the majority of EVs, including many Tesla models, are in fact using LiFePO4 cells. Some Chinese EVs are using sodium-ion.

 

[orbital]

+

rather certain this thread is about lights with Type C charging input
..under that black circle is a Type C input [simple 2A charging // 21700 light]

approximately as difficult as charging your phone

 

[TPA]

The fact 5 employees tried to put out the (battery pack from Kia) lion fire using common extinguisher chemicals to no prevail until they finally covered (smothered) with a fire blanket.

With a lithium battery fire, fire extinguishers are going to be useless. That is a metal fire and contains all 3 elements needed for fire (fuel, heat, oxygen), and is self-sustaining. The only thing extinguishers are good for is putting out anything else the lithium battery thermal runaway might have caught on fire. If you have copious amounts of water, perhaps you can knock down the heat part, but with how tightly packed multi-cell lithium batteries are, it's not likely to do much, as witnessed by this Tesla fully submerged and fully on fire:

 

[knucklegary]

Bad news, boat ramp using EV to trailer the jet ski created short circuit then melt down..
Good news, lakes make great heatsink!

 

[dc38]

Bad news, boat ramp using EV to trailer the jet ski created short circuit then melt down..
Good news, lakes make great heatsink!

EV's can do everything that standard cars do...but they won't do that!

 

[Monocrom]

Only reason why I even consider buying lights with proprietary batts., or encased proprietary batts. is because I have so many lights that don't require either one to work properly. My last flashlight purchase was a Wurkkos FC12C. No proprietary anything!