SHOT Show 2012: Surefire 'New Products'

[880arm]

Pricing on new 2012 SureFires

I've seen some mentions of the new line of SureFires on here but I haven't seen any prices yet. While searching around the internet tonight I ran across a site that shows a few of them along with pre-order prices! Since I'm not familiar with the company I have no idea how reliable these are but I thought they would be worth sharing. [EDIT: I found another site with identical prices so I have more confidence in their accuracy. Also, added info for a few more models]

UBR Invictus ($485) - More or less like the existing 800 lumen UB3T but can use the included rechargeable battery or 2 CR123's and has a 4-way tailcap. (UBR-A-BK)

UM2 Ultra ($209.30) - All the goodness of the old U2 but with 500 lumens output and a TIR lens. It will also have a choice of switches, either momentary or clicky. I am very tempted to hit the pre-order button on this one! (U2-A-BK)

LX2 Lumamax Ultra ($210) - Upgraded LX2 with 500 lumen output and TIR lens. (LX2UT-A)

EB1 Backup ($154) - Upgraded E1B with 200 lumens output. Will be available in Black and Silver colors and with clicky or momentary tailcaps. (EB1C-A-BK, EB1C-A-SL, EB1T-A-BK, EB1T-A-SL)

R1 Lawman ($320) - New product line with up to 700 lumens output. Utilizes head and tailcap switching. Comes with proprietary Surefire rechargeable battery or can be powered by 2 CR123's w/ battery magazine. (R1-A-BK)

UDR Dominator ($960) - 2,000 lumens. 'Nuff said. Powered by included rechargeable battery or a bunch of CR123's (UDR-A-BK)

UNR Commander ($416) - 800 max lumens controlled by 6 setting ring and includes the 4-function tailcap. Comes with proprietary rechargeable battery or can be powered by 2 CR123's w/ battery magazine. (UNR-A-BK)

Aegis ($280) - More masculine version of the ISIS. Black HA with titanium accent. 150 lumens output, TIR lens, and "touch" switch (TRA-A-BK)

DM2 Defender (No price) - Looks like the love child of a E2DL and Fury. 500 lumens, TIR lens, and programmable.

ZM2 Combatlight (No price) - Like the old Z2. 500 max lumens and TIR lens.

UAR Aviator (No price) - 500 lumens with four presets and 4 function tailcap.

UN3 Commander (No price) - 800 max lumens with 6 control ring settings and a 2-stage switch. Combatlight style body.

R2 Lawman (No price) - Same as R1 but can only be used with internal rechargeable battery.

Has anyone else heard of any pricing info? To be honest, I expected the new offerings to be higher than this. If these are correct, then I suppose this explains the recent price reductions on their existing line of products.

 

[yifu]

Re: Pricing on new 2012 SureFires

The prices sound about right. I remember hearing that the release was going to be mid to end of this year, which is very late considering that these were announced more than a year ago.
IMO they shouldn't discontinue their old P60 lights C2/C3/6P/9P/Z2 were the best P60 hosts ever made and now they are gone forever. They could easily have put in a better LED drop-in in them instead of discontinuing, which would have made them a lot more modular and compatible with the whole market of aftermarket switches, bezel rings, bezels, tailcaps, tailcap shrouds, 2 way clips, lens and P60 drop ins. Much more attractive to cpfers.

 

[awenta]

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UM2 sounds awesome. Love my other SF TIR lights. But the UDR! 2000 SF lumens?!

 

[awenta]

Re: Pricing on new 2012 SureFires

The prices sound about right. I remember hearing that the release was going to be mid to end of this year, which is very late considering that these were announced more than a year ago.
IMO they shouldn't discontinue their old P60 lights C2/C3/6P/9P/Z2 were the best P60 hosts ever made and now they are gone forever. They could easily have put in a better LED drop-in in them instead of discontinuing, which would have made them a lot more modular and compatible with the whole market of aftermarket switches, bezel rings, bezels, tailcaps, tailcap shrouds, 2 way clips, lens and P60 drop ins. Much more attractive to cpfers.

They are the most modular. Guess its time to buy and stock up before they cost more than their weight in gold. I wonder what will take over if these fade out. SF might bring back something similar if it's demanded.

 

[dmz]

Re: Pricing on new 2012 SureFires

What's the price on the DM2 Defender?

 

[iapyx]

SureFire is proposing some of these models will be offered with either a "C" clickie TailCap for dual-output selection, or a "T" Two-stage aka 'Tactical' push button pressure switch.
For example I'm led to believe either LX2UC or LX2UT.

So if you have e.g. an LX2UT and you would like it to be an LX2UC as well all you would have to do is get another tailcap, a clicky tailcap in this case. In that case it would be wise for SF to deliver the light with those two tailcaps. I foresee a scenario where some folks will (falsely) report that their tailcap is malfunctioning and ask for a replacement tailcap. If they have a clicky the replacement asked for could be a twisty and voilà, they have an LX2UT and LX2UC. Unless SF registers which serial numbers have a 'C' and which have a 'T'

 

[Size15's]

If [and I'm not sure just how much of an assumption this is] the difference is just the TailCap then I agree that supplying both, along with a spare two-way pocketclip would give the user choice, flexibility and a backup in the event of a failure.

 

[Viper715]

If the one with the clicky still has two modes that would be via the driver and not controlled by the TC. I doubt that will be the only difference. I also doubt strongly that SF would send out the light with two tc's.

 

[Brasso]

I'm very much hoping that the EB1 has a two stage pressure switch like the L1 and LX2. This is the only thing that would persuade me to buy one. In fact, it's the one thing that has me wanting this light. Otherwise it's back to trying to find an L1. I guess we're back to waiting like we did with the LX1. I hope we're not disappointed again.

 

[leon2245]

Even if (maybe especially if) swapping out for the clicky renders it a single mode, I'll do whatever it takes to make a clicky LX2U... so long as these aren't too greenly optimized for the human visual range.

:sick2:

That would be nice though, if you could get both tailcaps without having to buy both versions, swap, & flip etc.

 

[880arm]

Re: Pricing on new 2012 SureFires

What's the price on the DM2 Defender?

I haven't been able to find any prices listed for that one. I will update the OP if I find anything.

I don't want to read too much into this because we all know SureFire's history with releasing new products, but I think this may indicate at least some of the new lights will be available soon.

 

[diggumsmack2]

Re: Pricing on new 2012 SureFires

UM2 Ultra ($209.30) - All the goodness of the old U2 but with 500 lumens output and a TIR lens. It will also have a choice of switches, either momentary or clicky. (U2-A-BK)


Gets my vote!!

 

[af112566]

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yes,,the um2 ultra is a must!! also the lx2 ultra....

 

[JNewell]

Re: Pricing on new 2012 SureFires

UM2 Ultra ($209.30) - All the goodness of the old U2 but with 500 lumens output and a TIR lens. It will also have a choice of switches, either momentary or clicky. I am very tempted to hit the pre-order button on this one! (U2-A-BK)

How can it have all the goodness of the U2 without a reflector? Seriously.

 

[JNewell]

*sigh* You had to bring that one back up...

I'm very much hoping that the EB1 has a two stage pressure switch like the L1 and LX2. This is the only thing that would persuade me to buy one. In fact, it's the one thing that has me wanting this light. Otherwise it's back to trying to find an L1. I guess we're back to waiting like we did with the LX1. I hope we're not disappointed again.

 

[KDOG3]

Anyword on when the EB1 will be available? I have an interview in 2 days for a security position and it would be cool to start out with a good light...

 

[Size15's]

I fear you've got three hopes:
Bob Hope, no hope, antelope

 

[Size15's]

I fear you've got three hopes:
Bob Hope, no hope, antelope

 

[KDOG3]

Well I guess I wasnt clear. I didnt expect the light to be available in two days lol. I just wanted to know when I could expect to get my hands one as soon as possible.

 

[brianna]

As in many years past. Just because it is in the Surefire catalog, does not mean it will ever be available. It is anybody's guess as to if or when this light will be available. My guess is May. July at the latest if this light is even going to be available.