sgt253
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Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
Looking forward to your thoughts...and Vin Scully.
Looking forward to your thoughts...and Vin Scully.
Beta QR Pass-Around - Closed
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Crazyeddiethefirst
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Beta QR Pass-Around
Will try to get everything written up & posted tomorrow. Will be ready to ship to the next Lucky participant very soon. Jason @ Prometheus/Dark Sucks is amazing in his consistency. Since I own the earlier versions I thought I might see some deviations that are normal in any manufacturing process, yet the only identifiable changes are those he purposely made. Very impressive....
Will try to get everything written up & posted tomorrow. Will be ready to ship to the next Lucky participant very soon. Jason @ Prometheus/Dark Sucks is amazing in his consistency. Since I own the earlier versions I thought I might see some deviations that are normal in any manufacturing process, yet the only identifiable changes are those he purposely made. Very impressive....
tech25
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
I am going to sit this one out.
But thanks Jason and Got Lumens for another amazing pass around!!!
I am going to sit this one out.
But thanks Jason and Got Lumens for another amazing pass around!!!
Got Lumens?
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
Let us Know if You change your mind. If You don't want to check out the Beta's,
It would be worth your time to try out the batteries, they hold fast and steady
against my Eneloops. A little better actually as they don't have 500+ charges
.
GL
OK
Let us Know if You change your mind. If You don't want to check out the Beta's,
It would be worth your time to try out the batteries, they hold fast and steady
against my Eneloops. A little better actually as they don't have 500+ charges
.GL
Crazyeddiethefirst
Flashlight Enthusiast
Beta QR Pass-Around
Prometheus/Dark Sucks Beta QR Brass/Nickle Plated with GP Recyko NIMH AAA cells review.
I have the V1 of the Nickle Plated Beta QR and the first release of the Copper V2 with the new patented QR mechanism.
What I had:
What I received in the mail:
Like many before me, I was impressed by the Quality Control of Jason Hui. Besides owning earlier versions of the lights, I have been able to physically compare my lights to those owned by friends. Each and every light seems flawless. I was excited to receive the passaround package, and I must admit, my high expectations were not disappointed. The threads on the Brass Beta are flawless. I had just recently purchased a Brass Pen from Massdrop and a Brass Cache XL from County Comm. The triad in Brass is awesome.
Add a couple more tiny Brass lights for backup..
A Brass kind of carry day, olive wood pen & toothpick holder created by yours truly...
The lights "claim to fame" originally was it's Quick Release (QR) mechanism. The point of the quick release mechanism was that you could always have your light wherever you need it(being on the keychain, it follows you but with the ability to detach it at a moments notice for use outside of your vehicle. Now there is even a pocket clip that uses the new QR mechanism(more on that later). The original QR mechanism worked just fine, but it did add some length to the light. You can see the difference in the length of the first generation and the second:
The new mechanism adds less length and feels even more secure. The patented spring that makes this possible is seen here:
I was really excited to see on the Prometheus web site that Jason has created a pocket clip with a Brass end button that lets you carry it in your pocket and still tail stand without a problem.
(Photo from Prometheus/Dark Sucks website).
The Nichia 219 seems even warmer than the original. The beam is smooth with a good combination of hotspot and spill.
The Nickel Plated version is also an example of outstanding quality control and attention to detail. I have a titanium battery tube from MBI that houses my backup battery and works with the Nickel finish, shown with the previous mentioned Brass Cache XL:
I am a fanatic for always having a spare cell for whatever lights I carry-I even have plastic adapters that allow me to use my AAA cells in any AA lights in an emergency.
A big part of this passaround package is the NIMH cells & charger from GP Recyko.
The pass around rules require the use of these cells. I will confess I forgot about this and promptly dropped in Eneloop Plus, so that the new lights would have the same cells as my existing Beta QR's. I have to admit that for any of my lights that can't handle 10440's gets fed Eneloops. The downside of the eneloops on a AAA light is that if used on high too long the temp will cause the battery to turn off. Supposedly the new cells handle the heat better, but the Beta's handle heat so well I never reached a thermal shutdown on either battery in any of the lights.
Once I realized the error of my enelooping ways, I changed to the Recyko's, and begrudgingly have to admit they are pretty impressive. The charger did not look all that impressive, but just like it's eneloop charging counterpart, it does its job & actually does it well.
I was not expecting much from the NIMH cells, having long ago fallen in love with Eneloops(all 40 or 50 of them that I have). The packaging was not all that impressive and reminded me of products I have purchased in the past with "added value" of free batteries and charger, usually with some kind of ****fire name. Instead, I found the cells actually matched or exceeded what my precious Eneloops Plus achieved. Once more reminding me of the old adage "Never judge a book by it's cover"...
I figure I will let someone else do the routine beamshots, I thought I would be a little different & grab a handful of triple A lights, put Eneloops in all of them and line them up(note:I used eneloops because I had the ability to use all of the same eneloops cells with the same charge level in all 14 lights). I only received 5 Recyko's, and did not want any light to have an advantage(if any was possible) by one cell or the other.
On low for two mode lights/medium of three mode:
Medium:
High:
In cases of lights with only "hi" and "low" settings, I used low in comparison with "medium" of lights with 3 settings. Although I use moonlight quite a bit, since the Beta's did not have a moonlight setting, I left it out of the shots. The lights from left to right are:
Beta QR V1 Nickel
Beta QR V2 Nickel
Beta QR V2 Copper
New Beta QR V2 Brass
Lumintop Tool, Copper, XP-G2
Lumintop Tool, HA-III, XP-G2
Astrolux A01, Copper, Nichia 219b
L3 Illumination, L08, Nichia 219b
Maratac AAA V3, Nichia 219
Fenix E05, stainless steel, XP-E2
PKDL PL2 Rainbow TI XP-G
Eagtac D25AAA, Nichia219
Surefire Titan Plus
Fenix E99, Ti, XP-E2
Now just the four Beta QR's on high:
Thanks to Jason at Prometheus/Dark Sucks for providing the pass around package. Thanks to Got Lumens for taking the time and effort to host & coordinate this pass around. I was bit by the Copper bug a year ago and then just recently fell in love with Brass. I like the weight, the patina and durability of both copper & Brass. Having seen companies start small, have great products, become successful and all of the sudden Quality Control goes down the tubes and the once durable, dependable products become much less so on all counts. Lucky for us, Prometheus/Dark Sucks is taking the necessary time, effort and money to ensure every product retains the same quality and dependability from their very first product made to the most recent one. Having CPF members, from all walks of life, participate in the pass arounds gives each member the opportunity to voice their likes and dislikes. This encourages discussion and in the end educates us all. I will package up the goodies and ship it out to sgt253 in the next 24 to 48 hours. Sorry I was a little slow on getting my opinions posted, as I had to have another procedure on my back...Such is life when you will do anything to keep walking, hiking and finding ways to stay out in the wilderness after dark so you can play with your toys...(ahem, excuse me, to evaluate the high tech offerings in the endeavor to determine the best choice of illumination for a variety of scenarios)...
Prometheus/Dark Sucks Beta QR Brass/Nickle Plated with GP Recyko NIMH AAA cells review.
I have the V1 of the Nickle Plated Beta QR and the first release of the Copper V2 with the new patented QR mechanism.
What I had:
What I received in the mail:
Like many before me, I was impressed by the Quality Control of Jason Hui. Besides owning earlier versions of the lights, I have been able to physically compare my lights to those owned by friends. Each and every light seems flawless. I was excited to receive the passaround package, and I must admit, my high expectations were not disappointed. The threads on the Brass Beta are flawless. I had just recently purchased a Brass Pen from Massdrop and a Brass Cache XL from County Comm. The triad in Brass is awesome.
Add a couple more tiny Brass lights for backup..
A Brass kind of carry day, olive wood pen & toothpick holder created by yours truly...
The lights "claim to fame" originally was it's Quick Release (QR) mechanism. The point of the quick release mechanism was that you could always have your light wherever you need it(being on the keychain, it follows you but with the ability to detach it at a moments notice for use outside of your vehicle. Now there is even a pocket clip that uses the new QR mechanism(more on that later). The original QR mechanism worked just fine, but it did add some length to the light. You can see the difference in the length of the first generation and the second:
The new mechanism adds less length and feels even more secure. The patented spring that makes this possible is seen here:
I was really excited to see on the Prometheus web site that Jason has created a pocket clip with a Brass end button that lets you carry it in your pocket and still tail stand without a problem.
(Photo from Prometheus/Dark Sucks website).
The Nichia 219 seems even warmer than the original. The beam is smooth with a good combination of hotspot and spill.
The Nickel Plated version is also an example of outstanding quality control and attention to detail. I have a titanium battery tube from MBI that houses my backup battery and works with the Nickel finish, shown with the previous mentioned Brass Cache XL:
I am a fanatic for always having a spare cell for whatever lights I carry-I even have plastic adapters that allow me to use my AAA cells in any AA lights in an emergency.
A big part of this passaround package is the NIMH cells & charger from GP Recyko.
The pass around rules require the use of these cells. I will confess I forgot about this and promptly dropped in Eneloop Plus, so that the new lights would have the same cells as my existing Beta QR's. I have to admit that for any of my lights that can't handle 10440's gets fed Eneloops. The downside of the eneloops on a AAA light is that if used on high too long the temp will cause the battery to turn off. Supposedly the new cells handle the heat better, but the Beta's handle heat so well I never reached a thermal shutdown on either battery in any of the lights.
Once I realized the error of my enelooping ways, I changed to the Recyko's, and begrudgingly have to admit they are pretty impressive. The charger did not look all that impressive, but just like it's eneloop charging counterpart, it does its job & actually does it well.
I was not expecting much from the NIMH cells, having long ago fallen in love with Eneloops(all 40 or 50 of them that I have). The packaging was not all that impressive and reminded me of products I have purchased in the past with "added value" of free batteries and charger, usually with some kind of ****fire name. Instead, I found the cells actually matched or exceeded what my precious Eneloops Plus achieved. Once more reminding me of the old adage "Never judge a book by it's cover"...
I figure I will let someone else do the routine beamshots, I thought I would be a little different & grab a handful of triple A lights, put Eneloops in all of them and line them up(note:I used eneloops because I had the ability to use all of the same eneloops cells with the same charge level in all 14 lights). I only received 5 Recyko's, and did not want any light to have an advantage(if any was possible) by one cell or the other.
On low for two mode lights/medium of three mode:
Medium:
High:
In cases of lights with only "hi" and "low" settings, I used low in comparison with "medium" of lights with 3 settings. Although I use moonlight quite a bit, since the Beta's did not have a moonlight setting, I left it out of the shots. The lights from left to right are:
Beta QR V1 Nickel
Beta QR V2 Nickel
Beta QR V2 Copper
New Beta QR V2 Brass
Lumintop Tool, Copper, XP-G2
Lumintop Tool, HA-III, XP-G2
Astrolux A01, Copper, Nichia 219b
L3 Illumination, L08, Nichia 219b
Maratac AAA V3, Nichia 219
Fenix E05, stainless steel, XP-E2
PKDL PL2 Rainbow TI XP-G
Eagtac D25AAA, Nichia219
Surefire Titan Plus
Fenix E99, Ti, XP-E2
Now just the four Beta QR's on high:
Thanks to Jason at Prometheus/Dark Sucks for providing the pass around package. Thanks to Got Lumens for taking the time and effort to host & coordinate this pass around. I was bit by the Copper bug a year ago and then just recently fell in love with Brass. I like the weight, the patina and durability of both copper & Brass. Having seen companies start small, have great products, become successful and all of the sudden Quality Control goes down the tubes and the once durable, dependable products become much less so on all counts. Lucky for us, Prometheus/Dark Sucks is taking the necessary time, effort and money to ensure every product retains the same quality and dependability from their very first product made to the most recent one. Having CPF members, from all walks of life, participate in the pass arounds gives each member the opportunity to voice their likes and dislikes. This encourages discussion and in the end educates us all. I will package up the goodies and ship it out to sgt253 in the next 24 to 48 hours. Sorry I was a little slow on getting my opinions posted, as I had to have another procedure on my back...Such is life when you will do anything to keep walking, hiking and finding ways to stay out in the wilderness after dark so you can play with your toys...(ahem, excuse me, to evaluate the high tech offerings in the endeavor to determine the best choice of illumination for a variety of scenarios)...
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sgt253
Enlightened
Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
Very comprehensive review, nice. Gives a great idea of size and brightness compared to its competition. I look forward to the experience. Best to you. Hope everything heals as well as it should.
Very comprehensive review, nice. Gives a great idea of size and brightness compared to its competition. I look forward to the experience. Best to you. Hope everything heals as well as it should.
Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
thanks for the review! http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/images/smilies/happy14.gif i have 1 qrv2 copper and happy with it
thanks for the review! http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/images/smilies/happy14.gif i have 1 qrv2 copper and happy with it
Crazyeddiethefirst
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
Lights & batteries en route to sgt253...
Lights & batteries en route to sgt253...
Got Lumens?
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Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
The emoji You tried to use is "{:}twothumbs". type without the brackets in your post and don't use the http or picture buttons
:welcome:
The emoji You tried to use is "{:}twothumbs". type without the brackets in your post and don't use the http or picture buttons
sgt253
Enlightened
Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
Box just received from USPS. Test and Review forthcoming!
Best.
Box just received from USPS. Test and Review forthcoming!
Best.
sgt253
Enlightened
Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
Review upcoming. Package on way to Tejasandre.
Review upcoming. Package on way to Tejasandre.
Tejasandre
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
The eagle has landed.
J/k the pass around kit has arrived safely in Texas.
The eagle has landed.
J/k the pass around kit has arrived safely in Texas.
Tejasandre
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
Mmm candy. Couple pics.
Mmm candy. Couple pics.
Got Lumens?
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
I'm DisAppoint-mints
No Appease-mints
Dilbert Mints
I like beam shots! Cool. Err Warm, I mean just right :naughty:
I'm DisAppoint-mints
No Appease-mints
Dilbert Mints
I like beam shots! Cool. Err Warm, I mean just right :naughty:
Tejasandre
Flashlight Enthusiast
Beta QR Pass-Around
Really digging the brass one. The low is really low, followed by med & high. Nice warm tint.
The nickle has a cooler led. Still nice , not blue. Not sure about the modes. May have a malfunction.
Looks like M, H. 2 mode. But it hits low occasionally, but if I tap the light on my hand , jumps back to med. strange.
Really digging the brass one. The low is really low, followed by med & high. Nice warm tint.
The nickle has a cooler led. Still nice , not blue. Not sure about the modes. May have a malfunction.
Looks like M, H. 2 mode. But it hits low occasionally, but if I tap the light on my hand , jumps back to med. strange.
Got Lumens?
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Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
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Sometimes You can cause a the battery to loose connection and cause a mode change. The Electroless Nickel is 2 Mode
.
Tejasandre
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
lol. Working flawlessly then. :blush:
lol. Working flawlessly then. :blush:
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Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
A new rein-enforced, gold infused, magnetized spring is being "theorized" based upon your observational tap input and submitted as research input. The numbers look good. We need more tap data from You . . .
A new rein-enforced, gold infused, magnetized spring is being "theorized" based upon your observational tap input and submitted as research input. The numbers look good. We need more tap data from You . . .
Got Lumens?
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Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
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What You should try is clean the threads of the body of the light. The light was originally treated with nano oil 10W. The threads of the light will be fine. How ever the o-ring will need to be kept lubricated and clean. Clean the threads. Lightly lubricate. Wipe Clean the Head of the light. reassemble without a battery. Cycle threads, check for smoothness, OK, then repower light. Just Maintenance those new reading should know
.
Tejasandre
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Beta QR Pass-Around
Tried the above. Has not repeated the "3rd level" with tapping. Will continue to observe.
Tried the above. Has not repeated the "3rd level" with tapping. Will continue to observe.
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