markr6
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I haven't had any damage since ZL started using more pins. Specifically the 3 vs 5 pins; not the slightest dent with the 5-pin version.
Yeah, the SC600w HI and Plus I bought this year have them on both ends. I just figured they were going that way with all new lights. I guess not. I'm not sure why they need the tail pins on the 600w HI, since it has the same max output as the 64w HI, so current should be the same.
Heh. Yeah, I've only dropped onto concrete one light with pogo pins on both ends. No damage to the battery, but the bezel got a small chip. All my other drops were on much softer surfaces.
I was doing this for awhile:
But I found it made charging more difficult, so I gave up on it.
I've read around here that the SC600 draws more current, hence the pins. Larger and deeper reflector needs more lumens to maintain the same output as the smaller lights, due to losses caused by reflector and lens. Notice they have a shorter runtime for the same brightness, compared to the SC64w for example.
I wouldn't trust the published specs too much on the Zebralight website. Sometimes they're too optimistic, sometimes not enough.
For example, I measure the max output as 1100 lumens on both the S600w HI and the SC64w HI. On the website, they're listed as 1300 and 1400, respectively.
I also measured the 600w MkIV HI run time on H2c (the highest regulated mode without PID), as 6.5 hours using a Sanyo GA battery. The website lists it as 5.6 hours. The website lists the SC64w HI as 6.3 hours, which is about what I think it should be if it uses the same driver. I haven't measured it yet, myself.
Anyway, I think they do use exactly the same driver. I could be wrong, but I'll wait until someone does some concrete measurements of the currents of the two lights.
I also notice differences between the PID, I read the head temperature from the SC600w at 52º when steppin down and the SC64w shows 46º, I'm trying to increase PID temperature but I can't notice any difference
I wouldn't trust the published specs too much on the Zebralight website. Sometimes they're too optimistic, sometimes not enough.
For example, I measure the max output as 1100 lumens on both the S600w HI and the SC64w HI. On the website, they're listed as 1300 and 1400, respectively.
I also measured the 600w MkIV HI run time on H2c (the highest regulated mode without PID), as 6.5 hours using a Sanyo GA battery. The website lists it as 5.6 hours. The website lists the SC64w HI as 6.3 hours, which is about what I think it should be if it uses the same driver. I haven't measured it yet, myself.
Anyway, I think they do use exactly the same driver. I could be wrong, but I'll wait until someone does some concrete measurements of the currents of the two lights.
I currently own a SC62w, and want to upgrade to either a SC64w or a SC64w HI, primarily for the programmable UI. From what I have read, there is not a big difference between the two. Is the HI version the better overall choice, for mostly indoor use?
I'm satisfied. The SC64 HI is not a revolutionary improvement, esp. if you are coming from the SC600 HI. But it's good, and much smaller.
Received my HI a few days ago. The HI still has some "Cree rainbow", but it is subdued. Compared to my SC62w, it has a lot less yellow in the hot spot, and less yellow/green in the corona. I did not encounter any electronic bugs. The switch cover is not leaking light. My new GA battery has not been crushed, so far. I installed the chrome clip from the SC62w onto the SC64w HI, for easier jeans pocket insertion and extraction.
The clip is one thing I hate about the new SC64 and others... I've retrofitted all my new lights with older clips.
I bought a bunch of the old ones to "future proof" myself from the black, but I never got around to switching out my SC64w. At this point, I may just leave it since I mind so much anymore.
My SC64w HI experiences the "turn off from H1" only occasionally. My guess is maybe one out of every 10 or 20 turn-ons.
When the bug happens, I can override it and get it to stay on in high, by clicking to turn the light off, then click-and-hold to get to low, then turning it off and then on again. It will come on in H1 and stay on.