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    Post Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    This is the growing collection of Lumens readings I have taken in a real integration 6 inch sphere system over the last 3 years. More to be added.
    Orange readings are Incandescents, (forgive me). Truth is Truth.

    Make/Model Torch___________Real IS Lumens_______Batteries____________Notes___________ __,
    Browning Black Ice 9V________165,__________________3 primaries__________incan--No bezel or glass,
    with Magstar Xenon lamp,_____125,__________________3 primaries__________incan--with bezel and glass,
    SureFire 6PLED_______________82,__________________2 primaries__________original LED________,
    SureFire E2DL on high,________210__turn on___________2 primaries__________Brand new as is from Factory!
    SureFire E2DL on high,________203__warm.____________2 primaries__________let it run over a minute,
    SureFire E2DL on high,________181__warm.____________2 primaries__________w/SF F04 Diffuser, on > 60sec,
    SureFire E2DL on low,___________8.1_________________2 primaries______________________________,
    SureFire M600C Scout,________171__turn on___________2 primaries__________KX2C head; single mode version of the E2DL,
    SureFire M600C Scout,________165__warm.____________2 primaries__________60 second warm up time.
    SureFire M600C Scout,________148__warm.____________2 primaries__________w/SF F04 Diffuser, on > 60sec
    SureFire KX2C on E2DL_______192__turn on.___________2 primaries__________Different KX2C head on my E2DL body.
    SureFire KX2C on E2DL_______185__warm_____________2 primaries__________Different KX2C head on my E2DL body.

    Solarforce R2-S______________202___________________3 RCRs,_____________Browning Black Ice 3 cell host.
    Solarforce R2-5M low,__________37___________________2 primaries___________Surefire 6P host_________,
    Solarforce R2-5M Med,_________85___________________2 primaries___________Surefire 6P host___________,
    Solarforce R2-5M High________160-155________________2 primaries,__________Surefire 6P host__________,
    Solarforce Cree R2-S_________210___________________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host___________,
    Solarforce Cree R2-S_________190___________________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
    Solarforce Cree Q5,__________150___________________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
    Nailbender P7 Drop in,________460__turn-on____________2 SF CR123 fresh,______Solarforce L2 Host, AR coated glass,
    Nailbender P7 Drop in,________387__warm_____________2 SF CR123 fresh,______Solarforce L2 Host, AR coated glass,
    Nailbender P7 Drop in,________427__turn-on,___________1_18650 LI unprotected__Solarforce L2 Host, AR coated glass,
    Nailbender P7 Drop in,________357__warm_____________1_18650 LI unprotected__Solarforce L2 Host, AR coated glass,
    Nailbender P7 Drop-in________300__turn-on____________2_WF CR123 >60 dead__Surefire 6P Patriotic Spirit Edition,
    Nailbender P7 Drop-in________446__turn-on,___________2 SF CR123 fresh_______Surefire 6P Patriotic Spirit Edition,
    Nailbender P7 Drop-In________377__warm_____________2 SF CR123 fresh_______Surefire 6P Patriotic Spirit Edition,
    Nailbender P7 Drop-In________517__turn-on____________3.90V__2.55A Reg supply___ No host at all.
    Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________480__turn-on____________1_IMR 18650,_________SureFire 6P_No Bezel__(DD=direct drive)
    Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________457__turn-on____________1_IMR 18650,_________SureFire 6P_ Bezel AR coated Glass,
    Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________406__warm,_____________1_IMR 18650,_________SureFire 6P_ Bezel AR coated glass,
    Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________185__turn-on____________2.99V_0.85A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
    Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________314__turn-on____________3.19V_1.60A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
    Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________397__turn-on____________3.39V_2.10A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
    Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________440__turn-on____________3.52V_2.60A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
    Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________470__turn-on____________3.60V_3.01A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
    Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________518__turn-on____________3.65V_3.20A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
    Malkoff MC-E_W_DD,________617__turn-on____________3.82V_4.20A, Reg Supply___No host at all.
    Would not hold any of the higher values steady state. The higher it started the faster the readings dropped, even for just 5 seconds of testing.

    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________542__turn-on____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________528__30 sec.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________514__1 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________509__90 sec.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________504__2 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________496__3 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________492__4 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________488__5 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel

    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________482__turn-on____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________461__30 sec.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________453__1 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________447__90 sec.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________443__2 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________435__3 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________430__4 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.
    Malkoff MC-E_reg,___________426__5 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext.

    Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________482__turn-on____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________458__1 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________449__2 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________445__3 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________440__4 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host +1 ext. no Bezel

    Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________430__turn-on.____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________408__1 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________400__2 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________395__3 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________391__4 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel
    Malkoff MC-E_W_reg,________388__5 min._____________2X18650LI_____________Solarforce Host AR coated glass in Bezel


    Malkoff M60________________231__turn-on____________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host_______________,
    Malkoff M60________________220__warm,_____________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host_______________,
    Malkoff M60________________235__turn-on____________2 AW ICR123__________Surefire C2 Centurion host_______,
    Malkoff M60________________218__warm _____________2 AW ICR 123_________Surefire C2 Centurian host_______,
    Malkoff M60________________276__turn on____________2X17500 LI____________NO BEZEL Solarforce L2 +1 ext.__,
    Malkoff M60________________245__warm_____________2X17500 LI____________NO BEZEL Solarforce L2 +1 ext.__,
    Malkoff M60________________240__turn on,___________2X17500 LI____________w/nonCren BZL Solarforce L2 +1 ext.
    Malkoff M60________________215__warm_____________2X17500 LI____________w/nonCren BZL Solarforce L2 +1 ext.
    Malkoff M60________________212__turn-on____________2 primaries____________Solarforce L2 host_____________,
    Malkoff M60________________202__warm_____________2 primaries_____________Solarforce L2 host_____________,
    Malkoff M60F_______________220__turn-on___________2 primaries_____________Surefire 6P host_______________,
    Malkoff M60F_______________216__warm_____________2 primaries_____________Surefire 6P host_______________,
    Malkoff M60F_______________202___________________2X17500 LI_____________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
    Malkoff M60W______________172-165________________2X17500 LI____________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
    Malkoff M60W______________185-165________________2X17500 LI,___________ L2 Host 1 extension, Surefire Bezel,
    Malkoff M60W______________192 peak_______________2X17500 LI____________NO BEZEL L2 Host 1 extension,
    Malkoff M30________________237___________________1X18650LI _____________NO BEZEL L2 Host_____________,
    Malkoff M30________________207___________________1X18650LI _____________Solarforce L2 Host______________,
    Mag-LED 4D________________50__drop to 40 1 min____4XNiCads____________-------------------------------------,
    Mag-LED 4D_______________80 no reflector__________4XNiCads____________-------------------------------------,
    Mag Terralux directly________120 (no reflector)________4XNiCads____________-------------------------------------,
    Lumens Factor EO-9 Lamp___272__turn on peak______2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, AR Coated glass in BZL.
    Lumens Factor EO-9 Lamp___260___warm___________2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, AR Coated glass in BZL.
    Lumens Factor HO-9 Lamp___180__________________2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
    Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___100__________________2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 extension,
    Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___127__turn on peak______2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 18650 Host + 1 ext, AR coated glass in Bezel,
    Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___122__60sec.___________2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 18650 Host + 1 ext, AR coated glass in Bezel,
    Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___120__120sec.__________2X18650 L I__________Solarforce L2 18650 Host + 1 ext, AR coated glass in Bezel,
    Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___126__turn on peak______2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, no glass in Bezel!
    Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___122__warm____________2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, no glass in Bezel!
    Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___121__turn on peak______2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, non cren bezel.
    Lumens Factor ES-9 Lamp___116__warm____________2X17500 L I__________Solarforce L2 Host 1 ext, non cren bezel.
    SureFire P60 Lamp__________87___turn on peak_____2XCR123____________Solarforce L2 Host, no glass in Bezel!
    SureFire P60 Lamp__________75___warm___________2XCR123_________ __Solarforce L2 Host, no glass in Bezel!
    SureFire P60 Lamp__________80___turn on peak_____2XCR123____________Solarforce L2 Host, non crenellated Bezel!
    SureFire P60 Lamp__________68___warm___________2XCR123_________ __Solarforce L2 Host, non crenellated Bezel!

    Inova X5 Green._____________16___________________2 primary___________------------------------------------,
    Inova X03 06 model__________38___________________2 primaries_________------------------------------------,
    Inova T5 (07model),__________96___________________3 primaries__________-----------------------------------,
    Inova T5 (06 model,)_________ 46___________________3 primary___________------------------------------------,
    Inova T1 (08 model)_________100___________________2 primary___________-----------------------------------,
    Fenix T1 turbo______________225 peak (corr)_________2 Delkin RCR123, or New primaries --------------------,
    Fenix T1turbo,______________219.4 (corr)____________2 primary____________----------------------------------,
    Fenix L1T_High_____________148 peak_down to 140___1 NiMH_____________RV7 3 Level Driver-------------,
    Fenix L1T_med,______________33__________________1 NiMH_____________RV7 3 Level Driver-------------,
    Fenix L1T_low,_______________10__________________1 NiMH_____________RV7 3 Level Driver--------------,
    Fenix L2D Q5 Turbo__________145__________________2 AA alkalines_______same with NiMH-----------------,
    Fenix L2D Q5 Med,____________37__________________2 AA alkalines_______same with NiMH-----------------,
    Fenix L2D Q5 Lo_______________8__________________2 AA alk____________same with NiMH----------------,
    Fenix L2D High_______________76__________________2 AA alk____________same with NiMH ---------------,
    Fenix P2D CE Turbo,_________104__________________1 primary___________------------------------------------,
    Fenix P2D CE high,___________61__________________1 primary____________------------------------------------,
    Fenix P2D CE med,___________30__________________1 primary____________------------------------------------,
    Fenix P2D CE low,_____________6.9________________1 primary_____________-----------------------------------,
    EagleTac P10A2 Low__________50 (corr),____________2AA eneloops_________---------------------------------,
    EagleTac P10A2 High________173 (corr)_____________2AA eneloops_________----------------------------------,
    EagleTac T10C2 HIgh________268__turn-on,__________2 primaries____________--------------------------,
    EagleTac T10C2 HIgh________256.5__warm,__________2 primaries____________--------------------------,
    EagleTac T10C2 Low,_________60 (corr)_____________2 primaries____________----------------------------------,
    EagleTac P10C2 High________225__________________2 primaries____________-------------------------------,
    EagleTac P10C2 Low,_________50__________________2 primaries____________-------------------------------,
    DX_MC-E High_____________337__turn-on,__________1_IMR 16340__________SF E1B Host, custom mod, doesnt hold value
    DX_MC-E Low,_____________137__turn-on,__________1_IMR 16340__________SF E1B Host, custom mod,
    DX_MC-E High_____________385__turn-on,__________1_18650 LI____________Solarforce L2 Host AR coated glass,
    DX_MC-E High_____________345__warm____________1_18650 LI____________Solarforce L2 Host AR coated glass,
    DX-MC-E Low______________150__warm____________1_18650 LI____________Solarforce L2 Host AT coated glass,
    Duracell Truebeam Wide,______74__________________3AAA Alkalines________-------------------------------,
    Duracell Truebeam Wide,______64__________________3AAA NiMH __________-----------------------------,
    Duracell Truebeam Narrow_____64__________________3AAA Alkalines________------------------------------,
    Duracell Truebeam Narrow_____60__________________3AAA NiMH __________-------------------------------,
    Dorcy K2 120 Lm,____________86__________________3 AAA NimH___________------------------------------,
    Dorcy K2 120 Lm,___________100 (no reflector)_______3 AAA NimH__________-------------------------------,
    Dereelight 3SM WC Q5_High __242__turn on__________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host+1EXT_AR coated glass, OP refl,
    Dereelight 3SM WC Q5_High __222__warm____________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host+1EXT_AR coated glass, OP refl,
    Dereelight 3SM WC Q5_Med ___78__ warm____________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host+1EXT_AR coated glass, OP refl,
    Dereelight 3SM WC Q5_low,____25_ warm,____________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host+1EXT_AR coated glass, OP refl,

    DereeLight 3SM5A_Q3-High,___146__________________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host------------,
    DereeLight 3SM5A_Q3-Med_____87__________________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host------------,
    DereeLight 3SM5A_Q3-Low_____47__________________2 primaries____________Surefire 6P host------------,
    This Q3 is the older style 1A draw pill, not the newer 1.2 amp draw.

    DereeLight 3SD WH R2-High___215__turn-on__________1_18650______________ Solarforce L2 Host AR coated Glass,
    DereeLight 3SD WH R2-High___197__warm,___________1_18650______________ Solarforce L2 Host AR coated Glass,
    DereeLight 3SD WH R2-Med.____65__warm,___________1_18650______________ Solarforce L2 Host AR coated Glass,
    DereeLight 3SD WH R2-Low,____27__warm,___________1_18650______________ Solarforce L2 Host AR coated Glass,
    This is the 2.8-4.2V rated pill.

    Pill and Reflector Type_____________SLR F Bzl/AR__SLR F plain Bzl__SF 6P Bzl,
    Dereelight 3SM R2 SMO refl: High______227___________220____________215,
    Dereelight 3SM R2 OP refl: High,_______226___________223____________215,
    Dereelight 3SM Q5 SMO refl: High,,_____215___________207____________203,
    Dereelight 1SM R2 OP refl: High,_______211___________209____________206,
    Dereelight 3SM R2 OP refl: Med,________78.3___________78.3___________74.0,
    Dereelight 3SM R2 SMO refl: Med_______77.5___________74.8___________73.0,
    Dereelight 3SM Q5 SMO refl: Med_______76.7___________73.3___________71.9,
    Dereelight 3SM R2 OP refl: Low,________26.1___________25.9___________24.6,
    Dereelight 3SM Q5 SMO refl: Low_______25.7___________24.7___________24.2,
    Dereelight 3SM R2 SMO refl: Low_______25.5___________24.8___________24.1,
    Dereelight 3SM R2 SMO refl: Low_______25.5___________24.8___________24.1,

    Sorted in Order of Brightness from high to low. All of these in a Solarforce Host with 1 extension 2X17500 batteries. Solarforce Bezel with A/R glass, Solarforce Plain glass/Bezel, last is the stock Sure Fire 7P Bezel, all done side by side into same integration sphere on the same day. The R2 is the creamy white/greenish tint Wh. These are all warmed up readings not turn on cold "peak".


    Craftsman "170Lm" High,______150___________________6 AAA Alkalines________------------------------------,
    Craftsman "170Lm" High,______133___________________6AAA NiMH___________------------------------------,
    Craftsman "170Lm" Low,_______89___________________6 AAA Alkalines_________------------------------------,
    Craftsman "170Lm" Low,_______74___________________6AAA NiMH____________-------------------------------,

    MilkySpit Creemator Low,_______2___________________2 primaries____________Sure Fire E2E Exec Elite-,
    MilkySpit Creemator L-Med,____26.3_________________2 primaries_____________Sure Fire E2E Exec Elite-,
    MilkySpit Creemator Med,______80.2__________________2 primaries____________Sure Fire E2E Exec Elite-,
    MilkySpit Creemator High______242___________________2 primaries____________Sure Fire E2E Exec Elite-,

    Lumens Factory D26 LED_____182 peak_______________2 primaries down to 170 when warm Sure Fire 6P Host,
    Lumens Factory D26 LED_____182 peak_______________2x17500 down to 170 when warm Solarforce 1 ext___,
    TNVC Single mode___________166__turn on ___________2X17500 LI___________SureFire Bezel Solarforce Host.
    TNVC Single mode___________177__turn on ___________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host with A/R coated glass.
    TNVC Single mode___________169__warm_ ___________2X17500 LI___________Solarforce Host with A/R coated glass.
    Neoseikan Spartanian II_______157___________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #13,
    Neoseikan Spartanian II_______122.8._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #12,
    Neoseikan Spartanian II_______103.7._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #11,
    Neoseikan Spartanian II________82.4._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #10,
    Neoseikan Spartanian II________70.3._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #9,
    Neoseikan Spartanian II________58.2._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #8,
    Neoseikan Spartanian II________45.1._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #7,
    Neoseikan Spartanian II________31.3._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #6,
    Neoseikan Spartanian II________24.6._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #5,
    Neoseikan Spartanian II________16.9._________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #4,
    Neoseikan Spartanian II_________3.97.________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #3
    Neoseikan Spartanian II_________1.091________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #2,
    Neoseikan Spartanian II_________0.150________________1 AW RCR123_________Level #1,

    Solarforce standard Bezel's glass is not AR coated, and the assault crown cuts off a little of the outer perimeter of light, it drops a measurable amount of lumens compared to the Surefire bezel's window.

    I have made corrections to Fenix T1 and EagleTacs numbers based on the findings that their steel bezels were adding reflections of light to the total readings by a small percentage. See page 6 for explanation.

    http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pIhrzNLNezKYVu9XmK3dpYg

    Credit for the spreadsheet goes to Fooboy. I am guessing that as I add new readings to my chart he will update the spreadsheet shown in this link so that people can get a nice pull down listing of all lights tested thus far. G
    Last edited by MrGman; 04-14-2009 at 11:56 PM. Reason: More Data

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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    Sweet!

    Are you accepting further test candidates?

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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    Thank you for this info, MrGman.




    Your time, dedication, and hard work is greatly appreciated.


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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    Good to know the new Inova rating is spot on. Thanks!

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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    Great stuff!


    I especially appreciate the two Lumens Factory lamps measured, and the Mag Terralux was interesting for me too. It's great to finally know.

    Please bring us more in the future.

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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    Quote Originally Posted by mechBgon View Post
    Sweet!

    Are you accepting further test candidates?
    Yes, 50 year old Scotch and fresh pizza, not in the same box. I will do sample analysis for biometric data and report back to you.


    Send me a PM as to what you have.

    I have a few projects to finish up and then I am going to wind down for the Christmas Holiday Season and some personal life time off which I don't want to get into here.
    The projects though are going to be very good, hope the weather holds out to "get er done!".

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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    I'd love to see what the Surefire LEDs' actually rate, E1B, L1, U2, Kroma etc....
    FAILURE TO PLAN ON YOUR PART DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN EMERGENCY ON MY PART.

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    I just received the new EagleTac T10C2 for myself from Pacific Tactical Solutions. Its measurements were added to the list above.

    Turned on at a screaming 280 lumens, slowly drifted down to about 270 lumens. for reference I remeasured the Fenix T1 in the sphere, all with fresh new batteries of course. It turned on at 231 and was settling down to 227.

    for comparison. the Fenix T1 draws 0.82-0.8 amps on high with fresh primary batteries ala SF CR123 or Duracell CR123.

    the new EagleTac T10C2 draws 0.96 amps on high also with fresh batteries.

    Also for comparison the Malkoff M60 draws 0.82A from the same CR123 batteries I used for the other 2 flashlights in this test in the SF6P host.

    Fenix T1 is 107mA on low and the EagleTac T10C2 is 119mA on low.


    I could see the moment I turned it on it was brighter overall than the Fenix, The Malkoff M60, every single Cree type LED torch I had.

    There will be more to come in a separate thread about this light. It is what it is. I was surprised that it was so bright, I figured it to be only around 240 to 250 lumens. But the current draw tells you how it does it, its not mystery, its just AWESOME.
    Last edited by MrGman; 10-30-2008 at 09:03 AM.

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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    MrGman -

    Good stuff. Thanks.

    Is that a typo? Is this a 6 foot diameter sphere?
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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    Quote Originally Posted by Icebreak View Post
    MrGman -

    Good stuff. Thanks.

    Is that a typo? Is this a 6 foot diameter sphere?

    It's not a typo the symbol is the single quotation mark " which is inches its the 6 inch sphere. the symbol for foot is the apostrophe '
    not to be confused with those apostate disbelievers.


    6' feet 6" inches. 280 lumens symbol is
    Last edited by MrGman; 10-30-2008 at 10:08 AM. Reason: fixed word usage mistake

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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    Quote Originally Posted by MrGman View Post
    280 lumens symbol is
    LOL
    That's pretty interesting list
    btw. should EagleTac T10C2 be written in black, since it's not incandescent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jupello View Post
    LOL
    That's pretty interesting list
    btw. should EagleTac T10C2 be written in black, since it's not incandescent?

    I put it in red not orange because its red hot. My fault for not making it stand out more from the orange, I will fix it.

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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    I've told ya in the other topic that any EagleTac using 2XCR123 beats the Malkoff M60 or any other single LED light out there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mockingbird View Post
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    I was blinded by the light, you are correct. Didn't have that first cup of coffee yet too busy doing exciting tests.


    Separate note not related to this original message:
    Also note for my reference when I say this new light is "hot" I don't mean physically too hot to touch, I just mean way too good blinding power you got to have it hot.

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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    This thread smells like a sticky!
    Humm, I love that smell...

    Thanks for this great work .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calina View Post
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    Humm, I love that smell...

    Thanks for this great work .
    +1 for sure. I do hope the mods take notice of this thread. The best flashlight buyer is an informed buyer.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrGman View Post
    I just received the new EagleTac T10C2 for myself from Pacific Tactical Solutions. Its measurements were added to the list above.

    Turned on at a screaming 280 lumens, slowly drifted down to about 270 lumens. for reference I remeasured the Fenix T1 in the sphere, all with fresh new batteries of course. It turned on at 231 and was settling down to 227.

    for comparison. the Fenix T1 draws 0.82-0.8 amps on high with fresh primary batteries ala SF CR123 or Duracell CR123.

    the new EagleTac T10C2 draws 0.96 amps on high also with fresh batteries.

    Also for comparison the Malkoff M60 draws 0.82A from the same CR123 batteries I used for the other 2 flashlights in this test in the SF6P host.

    Fenix T1 is 107mA on low and the EagleTac T10C2 is 119mA on low.


    I could see the moment I turned it on it was brighter overall than the Fenix, The Malkoff M60, every single Cree type LED torch I had.

    There will be more to come in a separate thread about this light. It is what it is. I was surprised that it was so bright, I figured it to be only around 240 to 250 lumens. But the current draw tells you how it does it, its not mystery, its just AWESOME.
    Where are all the EagleTac doubters now????

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    MrGman,
    You’re awesome! Actual unbiased lumen readings from a lab.
    I knew the EagleTac was going to do good but that’s pretty darn close to their claims on the box. So I guess the T10C2 is the brightest flashlight in it's class for the price!
    You know everyone is going to want you to test their flashlights now. Hey, do you have any Cree based weapons lights you’ve tested?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike@PTS View Post
    You know everyone is going to want you to test their flashlights now.
    Not all flashlights just EagleTac T10L. Theoretically it's 40lm less bright but practically...

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    EagleTac T10C2 HIgh_______280-270_______________2 primaries !!

    Wow. Impressive! They must be sending some serious juice to the emitter. At least 1.2A, maybe 1.4A? Seems like it would take closer to 1.4A to get that many out the front lumens.

    It would be interesting to test the OTF lumens of a Dereelight CL1H with a 1.2A R2 pill.
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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    You've listed the M60F twice, at 202 and at 216-220. Is that a typo? I recall those being the numbers for the M60F and M60 respectively.

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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    MrGman,
    Thanks for the test. It was nice for me to see the Fenix T1 really was 230 lumens. I knew it was as bright as my old SF M3 with the HO bulb. It was also nice to see that the new Eagletac was around as bright as its claims. (I was a doubter....thought they would be around 230 as well)

    I will have to pick one up. Thanks again for your efforts!

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    280-270 Lumens!!! Holy Moly!... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjCRUvX2D0E

    Thats some serious output. Does it get warm to the touch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda4561 View Post
    You've listed the M60F twice, at 202 and at 216-220. Is that a typo? I recall those being the numbers for the M60F and M60 respectively.
    He tested it with different cells and hosts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda4561 View Post
    You've listed the M60F twice, at 202 and at 216-220. Is that a typo? I recall those being the numbers for the M60F and M60 respectively.

    Its not a typo its in 2 different hosts with different battery configurations. Look at the entire line. The lights are somewhat brighter in the Surefire 6P host than the Solarforce L2 host, which has that longer black crenalated strike bezel masking off some of the outer edge of the beam pattern and probably different AR coatings on the glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kramer5150 View Post
    280-270 Lumens!!! Holy Moly!! Thats some serious output. Does it get warm to the touch?
    It warms my heart just to hold it but I have not run it for any extended periods of time yet, Needed to keep the batteries fresh for the lumens test and haven't had any time yet to do anything else. Its on my hip and will be seeing some extended usage as part of the further evaluation, just hasn't gotten there. This is only day #1 of the EagleTac T10C2 Saga.

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    Wow, having real data is pretty nice. Thanks for taking time out of your life to satisfy our collective curiosity.
    I'll admit I'm surprised at a couple of the results, but then again I'm a skeptic who doubts most everything claimed by a manufacturer until proven otherwise. Good to see some of them are actually giving good numbers.
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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    Mods, any way you guys can sticky this?

    GMan... can I send you my 11836 and 6090 + 6P to test? I'll pay return postage.

    PM me if interested.

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    Default Re: Actual Lumens readings in 6" dia. Lab Sphere IS with SC 5500 control

    Quote Originally Posted by MrGman View Post
    Its not a typo its in 2 different hosts with different battery configurations. Look at the entire line. The lights are somewhat brighter in the Surefire 6P host than the Solarforce L2 host, which has that longer black crenalated strike bezel masking off some of the outer edge of the beam pattern and probably different AR coatings on the glass.
    I did notice the batteries and hosts were different, it's just that the numbers were so similar to ones you'd posted before with the m60 and m60f.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom23 View Post
    Not all flashlights just EagleTac T10L. Theoretically it's 40lm less bright but practically...
    +1
    I have the T10C and T10L and would love to know how they compare to the T10C2.

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