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There's no "best", really - it's a matter of personal preference. Power (i.e. light output) is a direct trade-off with run-time. The more powerful (brighter) the bulb, the shorter the run-time will be before it needs recharging.
WA 1185 is top for power. For that you need an FM or Odd Mods 3x17670 battery holder, and the FM MN bi-pin bulb holder. Not sure what the current prices are - check the links in post #1.So then the most powerfull bulb + your great battery extention + cells
could you please list these and their price
Consider the HO-M6R. The only extra you'll need for that is the FM / Odd Mods 3x17670 battery holder and cells. You won't need a Megalennium body or FM bi-pin bulb holder. It's a great combination:What kind of setup would I need to have an output similar to WA1111, for at last 30 minutes, regulated?
Is it possible with Megalennium body + FM3X head, or it would require something bigger, to hold more 18650s? Is there any driver available to keep the brightness at the constant level, just like my A2 does?
post #1 said:The Lumens Factory HO-M6R was the best surprise of this shootout. It draws 2.1 amps from 3x Li-Ions – that is Lumens Factory's own figure, and it proved accurate on measurement. This means it can be used safely with 3s2p RCR123 Li-Ions in the stock MB20 holder; however it will perform better with 3x17670s. The HO-M6R has always been described as being "somewhere between the MN20 and MN21 in output". Well, we can now officially scratch that description as inadequate. It stomped the MN20, and it gave the MN21 a very good run for its money. It was a far closer thing than I thought it would be. It has a tighter beam, and I think it actually out-throws the MN21. Throw is a feature of Lumens Factory bulbs, and this is a superb thrower. I knew it was good, but it took this comparison to show just how good it really is.
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WA 1185 is top for power. For that you need an FM or Odd Mods 3x17670 battery holder, and the FM MN bi-pin bulb holder. Not sure what the current prices are - check the links in post #1.
Consider the HO-M6R. The only extra you'll need for that is the FM / Odd Mods 3x17670 battery holder and cells. You won't need a Megalennium body or FM bi-pin bulb holder. It's a great combination:
The disadvantage...is that under 3x17670 about two hours or so of service, the envelope darkens so much that it reminded me of an MN20 on nearly dead cells:candle:
The disadvantage...is that under 3x17670 about two hours or so of service, the envelope darkens so much that it reminded me of an MN20 on nearly dead cells:candle:
Great. I asked incan newbie question, got HO-M6R as a solution, now people are complaining about it...
Great. I asked incan newbie question, got HO-M6R as a solution, now people are complaining about it...
Well mine's not that dark yet - but same sort of darkening on the inside of the LA. I thought I had read on other threads that this type of darkening would usually happen becuase of an underdriven LA.
1166 is rated for 11.6V, around 2 amps. there is no way your Li cells can sustain 11.1V under 2A without some moderately heavy voltage sag.I am going to look for a good bi-pin that would allow me to go for a slightly less expensive LA. T1331 looks like a good possiblity and so does the 1166 potentially (although it looks like the 1166 would be slightly underdriven on 3 Li cells at 11.1V)
I have yet to find a product that exists in this world without at least one person who jeered about it...including rubbers.
There are many people who are content with this lamp, it served me well for those couple hours and its performance has already paid itself off, I am merely showing you a possibility of what might become of your lamp should it be operated as long as mine has.
Funny thing is, this was designed to be driven by 3x17670s...1185s aren't, and none of my 1185s have has any darkening issue.
1166 is rated for 11.6V, around 2 amps. there is no way your Li cells can sustain 11.1V under 2A without some moderately heavy voltage sag.
Well, if you don't mind blowing $33 for every few seconds of runtime...Isn't the MN21 with the 2 X C Li-Ion's the best for power with no regard to anything else?
I'm looking for the configuration with the highest power, with no regard to anything else.
Well, if you don't mind blowing $33 for every few seconds of runtime...
You might be lucky and get 5 mins, or maybe even longer. Or it might blow straight away. Honestly, it's not worth even trying it, IMO.Is it honestly that bad that you won't even get 5 minutes of runtime before the bulb pops?
The WA1185 draws ~3.2A IIRC. This will cause voltage sag in Li-Ion cells. The sag will be less on 3xC vs. 3x17670, which is why the bulb will look brighter on the C-Li-Ions. Please note - 3x Li-Ions for the WA 1185, 2x for the WA 1111.Additionally, did you test the WA1185 on the 2 X C vs. the 3 x 17670? Do you have any other tests in mind with the new 18650? What would you estimate as the life of an MN21 using 3 x 18650?
You might be lucky and get 5 mins, or maybe even longer. Or it might blow straight away. Honestly, it's not worth even trying it, IMO.
The WA1185 draws ~3.2A IIRC. This will cause voltage sag in Li-Ion cells. The sag will be less on 3xC vs. 3x17670, which is why the bulb will look brighter on the C-Li-Ions. Please note - 3x Li-Ions for the WA 1185, 2x for the WA 1111.
For maximum output, that is a good combination, but you would need a Megalennium body to use 3x18650. The stock M6 body will only take 3x17670.